New Bruce Pearl?

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i2amavol said:
Last year was his worst year, with 5 contributing newcomers. We won 21 games! Now, what exactly are his major coaching issues? Yeah, you may be able to point out a weakness, but 21-13 is not a bad year at Tennessee. It has been my experience that almost all freshmen-laden teams "under-perform." Again, if this year is not an improvement, I guess I'll have to agree with you at least to some extent, but I am not holding my breath.
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1. He cannot coach halfcourt D

2. He cannot change his offensive philosophy when it's not working.

3. His offense doesn't work when he cannot run the fastbreak.

Those are just the big things.
 
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as a big Pearl supporter, I can honestly say that if this team doesn't play much better defense than last year, show better effort (like past Pearl teams did) and advance to at least the sweet 16 again (I say "at least" because matchups are so important in tourney) , then I will freely admit that the future does not look as bright for UT basketball as I thought a couple years ago. I like what Pearl has done with the team, but it is time to see UT basketball reach new heights.

Those of you who are Pearl haters... can you honestly say that if this team performs well (i.e. 28-30 wins and a deep run in the tourney) that you will retract your criticism of Pearl? I don't think you will! I think you want him to fail because it makes you look like you know what you're talking about. I think you want this team to underachieve because you are so invested in bashing Pearl and anyone who dares to support him on this board. Be honest guys, what would it take this season (short of Pearl resigning) for you to stop bashing BP and the UT program? Is it that you don't like his style (of play, personality, lifestyle) and therefore can't or won't support him, or is this truly about wins and losses? Even if Pearl won the NC this year, would it be enough for you?
 
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I never played organized basketball. I don't know more than anyone else who has watched tons of basketball from their couch. So I have no informed opinion on most of these matters. I do wish I could read this forum and enjoy the upcoming season. Maybe it will be a colossal disaster, but the pro-Pearl and anti-Pearl folks don't have to turn every thread into this same tired argument.

There has to be more to look forward to this season than this.
 
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yoranguavol2 said:
Those of you who are Pearl haters... can you honestly say that if this team performs well (i.e. 28-30 wins and a deep run in the tourney) that you will retract your criticism of Pearl? I don't think you will! I think you want him to fail because it makes you look like you know what you're talking about. I think you want this team to underachieve because you are so invested in bashing Pearl and anyone who dares to support him on this board. Be honest guys, what would it take this season (short of Pearl resigning) for you to stop bashing BP and the UT program? Is it that you don't like his style (of play, personality, lifestyle) and therefore can't or won't support him, or is this truly about wins and losses? Even if Pearl won the NC this year, would it be enough for you?
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That group of questions is every bit as bright as the "You hate George Bush, thus you want us to lose the war in Iraq" line of thinking.
 
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i2amavol said:
0 Renaldo Woolridge
5 Emmanuel Negedu
32 Scotty Hopson
44 Phillip Jurick

23 Cameron Tatum (Redshirt)

3 Bobby Maze (JC)
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Bobby Maze is a junior even with junior college thats far from being a freshman. Hopson is the only other one who ever was forced to make any kind of contribution as a freshman and Tatum's already had a year with the team. We were by no means a young team
 
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Urinal Mint said:
Bobby Maze is a junior even with junior college thats far from being a freshman. Hopson is the only other one who ever was forced to make any kind of contribution as a freshman and Tatum's already had a year with the team. We were by no means a young team
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These players had not been coached by coach Pearl in his system, with the exception of Tatum, and even with him, he had not been through a season on the court (in a game). In addition, Tyler Smith and J.P. Prince are transfers, with Prince being injured much of the time up to that point.

So, although there may have been some experience, not that much has been under Pearl's tutelage. That is what we are talking about isn't it?

This year is another story, though. We only have two new players. Most of these players have been together for at least a year.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That group of questions is every bit as bright as the "You hate George Bush, thus you want us to lose the war in Iraq" line of thinking.
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huh? where did that come from. Hate, I've read your stuff... you can do better than that. At least TRY and answer the questions. It's simple... what (if anything) could make you change your mind about BP? Is there a number of wins? and championship? a final four? anything?

or... are you going to hate him no matter what at this point? You've spent a lot of time on here (and the few that follow every word you say) dogging him. Are you too invested in his failure at this point to even appreciate his success?
 
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yoranguavol2 said:
huh? where did that come from. Hate, I've read your stuff... you can do better than that. At least TRY and answer the questions. It's simple... what (if anything) could make you change your mind about BP? Is there a number of wins? and championship? a final four? anything?

or... are you going to hate him no matter what at this point? You've spent a lot of time on here (and the few that follow every word you say) dogging him. Are you to invested in his failure at this point to even appreciate his success?
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I don't answer silly questions. If I didn't want Tennessee to succeed, I wouldn't complain about the things that prevent them from doing so. The fact I utterly detest Bruce Pearl doesn't detract from that.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I don't answer silly questions. If I didn't want Tennessee to succeed, I wouldn't complain about the things that prevent them from doing so. The fact I utterly detest Bruce Pearl doesn't detract from that.
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Thanks. That answered my questions!

Translation of Hat's response= "even a final four is not good enough to redeem BP"

That's what I thought.
 
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hatvol96 said:
They proclaim it because it is true. Pearl's biggest accomplishment is an SEC regular season title. Rick Stansbury has one of those. Call me when a bad halfcourt defensive team wins something of major importance.
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2008, Kansas was known as defensive showstoppers in the halfcourt.
2003 Kansas, big time halfcourt D...
Billy D won NCAA titles with his defense dont you remember?

And Pitino at UK. Those were defensive juggernauts!

1990 UNLV...A team of guys who cared most about great halfcourt defense.

It is tiring seeing your idiotic statements on basketball threads over and over and over.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
2008, Kansas and Memphis sure were known as defensive showstoppers in the halfcourt.
2003 Kansas, big time halfcourt D...
Billy D won NCAA titles with his defense dont you remember?

And Pitino at UK. Those were defensive juggernauts!

1990 UNLV...A team of guys who cared most about great halfcourt defense.

It is tiring seeing your idiotic statements on basketball threads over and over and over.
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Florida's halfcourt defense was terrific when they won their two titles. Memphis' halfcourt defense was also excellent when they made their run. Kansas' halfcourt defense was and has been very good under Self. Hat is right; if you are not proficient in guarding in the halfcourt, you typically are not going to go very far in the tourney. This is obviously where we need to improve; if we do, then we have a chance of making something happen. If we don't, there will be a similar result as last year.
 
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kiffinator13 said:
Florida's halfcourt defense was terrific when they won their two titles. Memphis' halfcourt defense was also excellent when they made their run. Kansas' halfcourt defense was and has been very good under Self. Hat is right; if you are not proficient in guarding in the halfcourt, you typically are not going to go very far in the tourney. This is obviously where we need to improve; if we do, then we have a chance of making something happen. If we don't, there will be a similar result as last year.
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I'm laughing so hard at the idea of a team with Greg Anthony, Anderson Hunt, and Stacey Augmon not being good in the halfcourt defensively that I fear I'm going to injure myself. Normally, I hate it when people quote those I have on ignore. In this case, however, I'm glad you did. Sometimes I like to be reminded how stupid those I've banished are.
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kiffinator13 said:
Florida's halfcourt defense was terrific when they won their two titles. Memphis' halfcourt defense was also excellent when they made their run. Kansas' halfcourt defense was and has been very good under Self.
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You're trying to use facts in debating someone who claims the 1990 UNLV team wasn't great defensively. It's a waste of time. You should just let him marinate in his own ignorance. I'm just hoping BPV doesn't see that post. It might induce a stroke.
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hatvol96 said:
I don't answer silly questions. If I didn't want Tennessee to succeed, I wouldn't complain about the things that prevent them from doing so. The fact I utterly detest Bruce Pearl doesn't detract from that.
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If you had a gun with 1 bullet left, with Bruce Pearl at one end of the small room and Phillip Fulmer at the other end, and you had to kill one, who would you kill?
Stipulations:
1. You can't shoot yourself
2. They can't be lined up behind each other to take the same bullet
3. You must coexist with the other coach for 2 years
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
2008, Kansas was known as defensive showstoppers in the halfcourt.
2003 Kansas, big time halfcourt D...
Billy D won NCAA titles with his defense dont you remember?

And Pitino at UK. Those were defensive juggernauts!

1990 UNLV...A team of guys who cared most about great halfcourt defense.

It is tiring seeing your idiotic statements on basketball threads over and over and over.
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Good Lord. I've avoided this forum because a couple of you claim that it has been ruined for you if we don't all gush over Pearl. One of you, Unimane, essentially slurps all things Pearl as a knee jerk reaction, but knows a little basketball. You simply have no idea what you're talking about - ever. The anti-hat crusade makes you look even more absurd, especially the silliness regarding insiders. Just a hint: legit insiders don't post what the know on open forums to impress nimrods like yourself.
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hatvol96 said:
I'm laughing so hard at the idea of a team with Greg Anthony, Anderson Hunt, and Stacey Augmon not being good in the halfcourt defensively that I fear I'm going to injure myself. Normally, I hate it when people quote those I have on ignore. In this case, however, I'm glad you did. Sometimes I like to be reminded how stupid those I've banished are.
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Stacey Augmon was a great defensive player. If you seriously believe that 1990 UNLV was a great example of a team that was primarily focused on halfcourt defense, you do not know anything about basketball.

Tark had freakish athletes, they ran and ran and ran at a pace that enabled them to win by an average of 20 plus. They looked like what Bruce aspires to.

Some teams focus on great halfcourt defense, some do not.

If I said Kansas played no defense, or Florida played no defense it would be an idiotic statement, but those teams looked more like Tennessee and less like grinding halfcourt defensive teams. If you cannot see that or admit it there is no point in discussing basketball with you. Joakim Noah running full speed on a press penetration to pin a ball on the backboard is a great athletic play that is not a part of carefully executed halfcourt defense.

Maybe some people on here do not understand the distinction, but it seems pretty easy...
 
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It is also hilarious that I post a thread on here and it has lots of views and responses and you "banish me" and get 3 people including me reading what I think are very well done interviews...it is not the content of your interviews which is very good, maybe you are losing some people with your winsome personality...
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Stacey Augmon was a great defensive player. If you seriously believe that 1990 UNLV was a great example of a team that was primarily focused on halfcourt defense, you do not know anything about basketball.

Tark had freakish athletes, they ran and ran and ran at a pace that enabled them to win by an average of 20 plus. They looked like what Bruce aspires to.

Some teams focus on great halfcourt defense, some do not.

If I said Kansas played no defense, or Florida played no defense it would be an idiotic statement, but those teams looked more like Tennessee and less like grinding halfcourt defensive teams. If you cannot see that or admit it there is no point in discussing basketball with you. Joakim Noah running full speed on a press penetration to pin a ball on the backboard is a great athletic play that is not a part of carefully executed halfcourt defense.

Maybe some people on here do not understand the distinction, but it seems pretty easy...
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You do make some good points, but i feel like tennessee i lacking a lock down defender. they dont have anyone to put on a guy when he gets hot and say shut him down and them have the ability to do that. We saw that in several game last year. The lack of a good team defense will get you beat come tournament time. Which is why oklahoma state put them out last year. we couldnt stop the drible drive. I personally still dont see anyone on the roster this year that is going to be a "great defender"
 
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crusse10 said:
If you had a gun with 1 bullet left, with Bruce Pearl at one end of the small room and Phillip Fulmer at the other end, and you had to kill one, who would you kill?
Stipulations:
1. You can't shoot yourself
2. They can't be lined up behind each other to take the same bullet
3. You must coexist with the other coach for 2 years
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The question is moot. Fulmer is already gone.
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BigPapaVol said:
Good Lord. I've avoided this forum because a couple of you claim that it has been ruined for you if we don't all gush over Pearl. One of you, Unimane, essentially slurps all things Pearl as a knee jerk reaction, but knows a little basketball. You simply have no idea what you're talking about - ever. The anti-hat crusade makes you look even more absurd, especially the silliness regarding insiders. Just a hint: legit insiders don't post what the know on open forums to impress nimrods like yourself.
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Uh, I don't slurp on all things Pearl. If people actually bothered to read my posts, I actually have been critical on a number of occasions regarding defensive pressure and halfcourt defense, especially in the hedging of our posts.

What I do argue, mostly with hat (until he, devastatingly, put me on the ignore list like a 14 year old girl giving the silent treatment), was the outlandish crap being propagated here where any type of overt support for Pearl is considered to be "slurping all things Pearl" and participating in some kind of character assassination is considered "realism".

But, yes, the guy who said UNLV's Amoeba defense was weak doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Good Lord. I've avoided this forum because a couple of you claim that it has been ruined for you if we don't all gush over Pearl. One of you, Unimane, essentially slurps all things Pearl as a knee jerk reaction, but knows a little basketball. You simply have no idea what you're talking about - ever. The anti-hat crusade makes you look even more absurd, especially the silliness regarding insiders. Just a hint: legit insiders don't post what the know on open forums to impress nimrods like yourself.
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Come on, BPV. Surely you don't think me posting the contents of private conversations with people I've known for years, some of whom are or have been clients, would be a problem.
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BigPapaVol said:
Good Lord. I've avoided this forum because a couple of you claim that it has been ruined for you if we don't all gush over Pearl. One of you, Unimane, essentially slurps all things Pearl as a knee jerk reaction, but knows a little basketball. You simply have no idea what you're talking about - ever. The anti-hat crusade makes you look even more absurd, especially the silliness regarding insiders. Just a hint: legit insiders don't post what the know on open forums to impress nimrods like yourself.
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I must admit, I do like the idea of someone trying to tell me what Tark emphasized. That's comparable to someone who watched The Doors once on Showtime trying to tell Danny Sugerman what Morrison was like.
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hatvol96 said:
You're trying to use facts in debating someone who claims the 1990 UNLV team wasn't great defensively. It's a waste of time. You should just let him marinate in his own ignorance. I'm just hoping BPV doesn't see that post. It might induce a stroke.
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Yes, I thought it was quite unbelievable that a guy gets on here and rattles off 4 or 5 great defensive teams as an example of how defense does not win championships. Ignorance at its finest.
 
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