New ESPN rankings for 2021

[Coach Jumper]

Again, consider the source...

pot, meet kettle!

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

Coach please stop ! don`t disrespect Teonni you have never seen play i have. And if she is soft then KJh needs to schedule a game against NC. And lets see who draws the assignment in trying to keep her in check.

i’m going to step in and say Burrell would take that challenge. i think Teonni is good! but i’m not going to back down and say one of our ladies couldn’t give her fits.

i’m not saying CJs critique of her toughness is right but don’t doubt that someone like Burrell who would be a senior on a freshman might be able to keep her in check. Plus you have to remember if she matches up with her on the offensive end would she be able to keep another person in check. it goes both ways

 

[Coach Jumper]

i’m going to step in and say Burrell would take that challenge. i think Teonni is good! but i’m not going to back down and say one of our ladies couldn’t give her fits.

i’m not saying CJs critique of her toughness is right but don’t doubt that someone like Burrell who would be a senior on a freshman might be able to keep her in check. Plus you have to remember if she matches up with her on the offensive end would she be able to keep another person in check. it goes both ways

No disrespect personally, but as far as playing in a tougher conference...
Simply SEC v ACC
No comparison
2019
SEC 5 of the top 25
ACC 3 of the top 25
and it gets worse from there

NC is going to pull a Uconnie trick and beat up on a weaker conference and come to the NCAA's without the brutality of an SEC schedule

sorry, not sorry!

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

No disrespect personally, but as far as playing in a tougher conference...
Simply SEC v ACC
No comparison
2019
SEC 5 of the top 25
ACC 3 of the top 25
and it gets worse from there

NC is going to pull a Uconnie trick and beat up on a weaker conference and come to the NCAA's without the brutality of an SEC schedule

sorry, not sorry!

that’s fine but you questioned the young ladies toughness. her conference doesn’t have anything to do with her personal toughness ask marina mabrey and arike o. they are two of the tougher players from ND.

my thing was that she will be a freshman when the other poster asked who would match up and beyond conferences the overall physicality of the game increases. so when the question was posed who was gonna check her i said burrell who would be a senior on a freshman.

 

[Coach Jumper]

that’s fine but you questioned the young ladies toughness. her conference doesn’t have anything to do with her personal toughness ask marina mabrey and arike o. they are two of the tougher players from ND.

my thing was that she will be a freshman when the other poster asked who would match up and beyond conferences the overall physicality of the game increases. so when the question was posed who was gonna check her i said burrell who would be a senior on a freshman.

On the court, tough has no age.

 

[GameTime]

On the court, tough has no age.

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

On the court, tough has no age.

You have coached this long and you have never told an older more dominant player to take advantage of or go at a younger player?

Either you’re super nice or a bad coach ... i’ll let you decide I get what you’re saying but there is clearly a physical difference in most seniors and freshman. not saying they can’t hold their own but let’s be honest if that’s not the case Jordan horston should have had a quicker learning curve we attributed a lot of her errors to being a freshman.

 

[Bballnut1952]

Depends on the situation. The big difference for Tennessee going into next season is that they will be in rebuilding mode after losing Rennia this season. Sara would have a good shot at challenging for a starting position with the void left by Rennia's graduation, so the minutes (and shots) will be there for the taking. If she was able to earn a starting spot, I could see her scoring double digits. Maybe not 14 points, but 10 is doable if a 3rd scoring option behind Horston and Burrell doesn't develop. She will definitely need help from her teammates to take the defensive attention off of her. She could very well find herself in a Nina Davis-type situation if things align properly.

Totally see your point. I agree that 10 PPG is possible with the need for scoring from somewhere beyond Horston and Burrell.

My guess is maybe 6-9 PPG is more likely. I haven’t seen more than some game videos, so my guess is more based on historic performances by freshmen than her actually play.

 

[NeedOrange]

No disrespect personally, but as far as playing in a tougher conference...
Simply SEC v ACC
No comparison
2019
SEC 5 of the top 25
ACC 3 of the top 25
and it gets worse from there

NC is going to pull a Uconnie trick and beat up on a weaker conference and come to the NCAA's without the brutality of an SEC schedule

sorry, not sorry!

2019-2020 strength of Schedule Uconn 17 Lady Vols 95

Pot meet kettle

 

[Bballnut1952]

No disrespect personally, but as far as playing in a tougher conference...
Simply SEC v ACC
No comparison
2019
SEC 5 of the top 25
ACC 3 of the top 25
and it gets worse from there

NC is going to pull a Uconnie trick and beat up on a weaker conference and come to the NCAA's without the brutality of an SEC schedule

sorry, not sorry!

According to RealtimeRPI, the SEC was ranked the No. 4 conference and the ACC was ranked the No. 5 conference.

Using subjective Top 25 rankings is just not very accurate.

No comparison? Sorry, not true.

 

[Coach Jumper]

You have coached this long and you have never told an older more dominant player to take advantage of or go at a younger player?

Either you’re super nice or a bad coach ... i’ll let you decide I get what you’re saying but there is clearly a physical difference in most seniors and freshman. not saying they can’t hold their own but let’s be honest if that’s not the case Jordan horston should have had a quicker learning curve we attributed a lot of her errors to being a freshman.

Neither

In elementary, middle, HS or college this phenomenon takes place....an older kid half the size of a younger kid bullies them by virtue of age-intimidation alone. But if/when the younger kid learns of the power they possess that enables them to overpower the bully the bully becomes the victim.

In Atlanta, I coached in a 18u league. I also coached a team in their 12u league in the same org. I had a Mom approached me, whose girl (Te'Erica Eason, niece of Jarvis Hayes of the Detroit Pistons (10th overall pick for the Washington Wizards)) was 10 years old and could handle the ball and shoot much better than any of the 12u girls. Her Mom asked about her playing in the 18u league...Long story short...She played on and got floor-time on my 18u team. Her teammates took her in and built her confidence against the older girls...She was tiny and quick and was taught to utilize her tiny stature as a weapon. So yes, I have seen both sides of the coin.

I will be working with a player (freshman) this year who I have to teach the same thought process....Older players push younger players around until the younger players push back...Once the challenge is met it becomes a question of heart and skill, not age. If the younger player gives way to age, they do not grow, but if they get past the mentality of age over ability, they grow.

No, I am not a super nice, nor a bad coach. I am an empowering coach who knows how to push the right buttons of my athletes.

 

[Coach Jumper]

2019-2020 strength of Schedule Uconn 17 Lady Vols 95

Pot meet kettle

we were talking of sec-acc not the connies and the connies did not start out their run playing juggernauts...they only started scheduling the non-conference juggernauts after they began to dominate

 

[Coach Jumper]

According to RealtimeRPI, the SEC was ranked the No. 4 conference and the ACC was ranked the No. 5 conference.

Using subjective Top 25 rankings is just not very accurate.

No comparison? Sorry, not true.

nut, I am a lady vol supporter.
Any club but them I "couldn't" care less about.
NC is going to do one of two things, go the way of the connies or go the way of Wake Forest...I don't care

If they don't play for my Lady Vols,,, relative of our player or not!
SHe chose NC over LV...At that point she lost any support from me she might have had
If you're not with me, you're against me!
ANd that's the bottom line, "cause Stone Cold Jumper says so!"

 

[GameTime]

nut, I am a lady vol supporter.
Any club but them I "couldn't" care less about.
NC is going to do one of two things, go the way of the connies or go the way of Wake Forest...I don't care

If they don't play for my Lady Vols,,, relative of our player or not!
SHe chose NC over LV...At that point she lost any support from me she might have had
If you're not with me, you're against me!
ANd that's the bottom line, "cause Stone Cold Jumper says so!"

Well said my friend....

 

[Coach Jumper]

Well said my friend....

I hope that's a shot of Single malt Balvenie

 

[Bballnut1952]

nut, I am a lady vol supporter.
Any club but them I "couldn't" care less about.
NC is going to do one of two things, go the way of the connies or go the way of Wake Forest...I don't care

If they don't play for my Lady Vols,,, relative of our player or not!
SHe chose NC over LV...At that point she lost any support from me she might have had
If you're not with me, you're against me!
ANd that's the bottom line, "cause Stone Cold Jumper says so!"

I only commented on your factual misrepresentation about the difference in the SEC and the ACC in how tough they are.

 

[Bballnut1952]

we were talking of sec-acc not the connies and the connies did not start out their run playing juggernauts...they only started scheduling the non-conference juggernauts after they began to dominate

They also played in a top conference in the Big East back then so the OOC schedule wasn't as important.

 

[djtee]

i’m going to step in and say Burrell would take that challenge. i think Teonni is good! but i’m not going to back down and say one of our ladies couldn’t give her fits.

i’m not saying CJs critique of her toughness is right but don’t doubt that someone like Burrell who would be a senior on a freshman might be able to keep her in check. Plus you have to remember if she matches up with her on the offensive end would she be able to keep another person in check. it goes both ways

Burrell is a baller and i like her game. I was very high on her as a freshmen. I don`t see KJH putting Burrell 6-2 on Teonni listed at 6-3 but trust me more like 6-4 6-5 Also she can stretch the floor and beyond shoot the three. And defensively with her length and size she can guard pretty much every position on the court ?.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I only commented on your factual misrepresentation about the difference in the SEC and the ACC in how tough they are.

EVERY post I make is scrutinized and dissected by you, nut
after a while, I just want to verbally stand you in a corner and slingshot pebbles at you

I realize that this forum, is an outlet for you, as it is for me sometimes
but dang, it is tiresome knowing I will get a "no it's not" from you every time

 

[Bballnut1952]

EVERY post I make is scrutinized and dissected by you, nut
after a while, I just want to verbally stand you in a corner and slingshot pebbles at you

I realize that this forum, is an outlet for you, as it is for me sometimes
but dang, it is tiresome knowing I will get a "no it's not" from you every time

Every post? Another overstatement. You are good at that.

I'm into truth. You are into embellishment.

Sometimes I ignore, sometimes I don't.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Burrell is a baller and i like her game. I was very high on her as a freshmen. I don`t see KJH putting Burrell 6-2 on Teonni listed at 6-3 but trust me more like 6-4 6-5 Also she can stretch the floor and beyond shoot the three. And defensively with her length and size she can guard pretty much every position on the court ?.

rock paper scissors

• Speed beats size
• Size beats skill
• Skill beats speed

it may be that a smaller players aggravates her game more than a size matchup
It is up to coach K to figure this out via films if we play them

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

Burrell is a baller and i like her game. I was very high on her as a freshmen. I don`t see KJH putting Burrell 6-2 on Teonni listed at 6-3 but trust me more like 6-4 6-5 Also she can stretch the floor and beyond shoot the three. And defensively with her length and size she can guard pretty much every position on the court ?.

it’s not a question of whether she would or not the question said who could guard her and i think Burrell could do the job. It’s not a knock on Key it’s just i think you would need someone athletic and long and could jump when it came to a rebound and Burrell was a gold high jumper too. i think Key is gonna be a good one and her team is going to be good but if i needed someone in her i would put Burrell for now as she would be a senior and Key a freshman since we were talking about a scheduled game to see how tough she was. Burrell wears her toughness on her sleeves.

 

[GameTime]

it’s not a question of whether she would or not the question said who could guard her and i think Burrell could do the job. It’s not a knock on Key it’s just i think you would need someone athletic and long and could jump when it came to a rebound and Burrell was a gold high jumper too. i think Key is gonna be a good one and her team is going to be good but if i needed someone in her i would put Burrell for now as she would be a senior and Key a freshman since we were talking about a scheduled game to see how tough she was. Burrell wears her toughness on her sleeves.

She does have the grit to get in her face...It would be a fun match up.

 

[NeedOrange]

rock paper scissors

• Speed beats size
• Size beats skill
• Skill beats speed

it may be that a smaller players aggravates her game more than a size matchup
It is up to coach K to figure this out via films if we play them

Every player has varying combinations of Speed, Skill, Size, Experience, Confidence, Drive, Aggression, and Discipline.
Speed does not always beat size. Size does not always beat skill. Skill does not always beat speed.
Speed should win in the full court, while size should dominate in the half court.
But the outcome of the game is determined by drive, aggression, and discipline which are available to all players regardless of physical strengths and limitations.

 

[GameTime]

Every player has varying combinations of Speed, Skill, Size, Experience, Confidence, Drive, Aggression, and Discipline.
Speed does not always beat size. Size does not always beat skill. Skill does not always beat speed.
Speed should win in the full court, while size should dominate in the half court.
But the outcome of the game is determined by drive, aggression, and discipline which are available to all players regardless of physical strengths and limitations.

That is a well thought out post......Thank you.

I would also add, especially in a team sport, superior coaching...Coaching that brings out the very best in each individual, that has each member working/playing together, symbiotically of each other, to maximize their abilities into a cohesive team/unit....