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rmsmith

rmsmith

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The NFL is going to be more aggressive in suspension and fines for hits.

Rules defining a defenseless player will be expanded and now will include eight categories:
• A quarterback in the act of throwing;
• A receiver trying to catch a pass;
• A runner already in the grasp of tacklers and having
his forward progress stopped;
• A player fielding a punt or a kickoff;
• A kicker or punter during the kick;
• A quarterback at any time after change of
possession;
• A receiver who receives a blind-side block;
• A player already on the ground.
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They're trying to turn football into golf.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6223700
 
#2
#2
I guess we may as well just watch the lingerie league. The NFL appears to be set on a course of action to make the two leagues as indistinguishable as possible anyway.
 
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#3
The NFL is looking at all the stuff coming out about concussions and head injuries, thinking about the popularity arc of boxing in America, and trying to get out ahead of the curve to avoid the same fate. I don't like it either, but I can see why they're doing it.
 
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I have issues with two of them.
• A quarterback in the act of throwing;
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Uh, hello? He's still in possession of the ball!

and
• A quarterback at any time after change of
possession;
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Are they not going to allow QB's to make tackles after INT's or fumbles?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The NFL is looking at all the stuff coming out about concussions and head injuries, thinking about the popularity arc of boxing in America, and trying to get out ahead of the curve to avoid the same fate. I don't like it either, but I can see why they're doing it.
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I doubt that concussion issues had any impact on the decline of the popularity of boxing. Don King and $50 pay per view fees for horrible fights did boxing in.

Essentially refs will be able call a 15 yard roughness penalty on any play they want now.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
I doubt that concussion issues had any impact on the decline of the popularity of boxing. Don King and $50 pay per view fees for horrible fights did boxing in.

Essentially refs will be able call a 15 yard roughness penalty on any play they want now.
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Sad but true
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No
Fun
League

I think the rule regarding a QB after a turnover is a belated response to what happened to Tommy Maddox in 2004.
 
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#8
so what, if a QB is running towards a defender it's illegal to block him?

come on now :/
 
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dobre_shunka said:
I doubt that concussion issues had any impact on the decline of the popularity of boxing. Don King and $50 pay per view fees for horrible fights did boxing in.

Essentially refs will be able call a 15 yard roughness penalty on any play they want now.
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The country increasingly grew to view boxing as barbaric, marginalizing the sport. Which led to the explosion of pay per view events aimed at the fans who did care. Pay per view isn't greed; it's an admission that you can't generate enough revenue by putting it on regular TV and selling ads like all the other mainstream sports. So you have to gouge the aficionados instead.
 
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rmsmith said:
I have issues with two of them.

Uh, hello? He's still in possession of the ball!

and


Are they not going to allow QB's to make tackles after INT's or fumbles?
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I agree with this. So if the QB starts to throw and then tucks the ball away to run, you have to stop and wait for him to decide what he's doing? And if he throws an INT or there's a fumble, the QB can't be touched if he's trying to block? Really? Are they going to wear skirts too?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The country increasingly grew to view boxing as barbaric, marginalizing the sport.
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Which explains the recent popularity of MMA as it's a much gentler sport than boxing

Vercingetorix said:
Pay per view isn't greed; it's an admission that you can't generate enough revenue by putting it on regular TV and selling ads like all the other mainstream sports. So you have to gouge the aficionados instead.
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At $300+, NFL Direct Ticket isn't greed but an admission of the falling popularity of the NFL?
 
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superdave1984 said:
I agree with this. So if the QB starts to throw and then tucks the ball away to run, you have to stop and wait for him to decide what he's doing? And if he throws an INT or there's a fumble, the QB can't be touched if he's trying to block? Really? Are they going to wear skirts too?
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Yes, the Detriot Lions' Ndamukong Suh was penalized 15 yards and fined $75k for PUSHING Jay Cutler in the back so hard he fell down after Cutler had run 7 yards past the line of scrimmage while still holding the ball.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Yes, the Detriot Lions' Ndamukong Suh was penalized 15 yards and fined $75k for PUSHING Jay Cutler in the back so hard he fell down after Cutler had run 7 yards past the line of scrimmage while still holding the ball.
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one of the most ridiculous penalty calls and fines in recorded history.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Yes, the Detriot Lions' Ndamukong Suh was penalized 15 yards and fined $75k for PUSHING Jay Cutler in the back so hard he fell down after Cutler had run 7 yards past the line of scrimmage while still holding the ball.
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Oh, so I guess if the QB just runs with the ball every play, he will score? Nobody can touch him unless he trips? WTF?
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Which explains the recent popularity of MMA as it's a much gentler sport than boxing



At $300+, NFL Direct Ticket isn't greed but an admission of the falling popularity of the NFL?
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MMA isn't popular; it's marginal too. Which is why all its big events are on pay per view instead of regular TV. MMA will be popular in a meaningful sense when they get a TV contract that puts their content on a major network during prime time.

The sports TV model is clear -- yes, you can make money by charging a small group of rabid fans for pay per view events, but if you can attract a wide enough audience, then the way you can make REAL money is to leverage its popularity to sell TV advertising. Everything in major sports is driven by TV money. The $300 NFL Sunday Ticket package is simply the NFL being clever enough to figure out that they're so popular that they can have it both ways -- first they rake money in from the ad-watching eyeballs of the masses on free TV, and then they gouge the rabid fans on top of that for more games. But they'll never dump the regular TV portion of their broadcasting, because that's their main engine of revenue.

When I was a kid, boxing was on Wide World of Sports every weekend. And not just fights between scrubs -- you could watch championship-level bouts with Howard Cosell announcing. Its move first to premium cable and then to pay per view was a symptom of the sport's decline in popularity, not the cause.
 
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moving up kickoff returns to the 35 kinda bothers me.

I almost feel it was done to take the scoring aspect of kickoff returns out of the game

(it should though benefit teams the teams with the worse kick return games (an example could be the Colts) while it can also hurt teams that have the threatening return games)
 
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TrueOrange said:
moving up kickoff returns to the 35 kinda bothers me.

I almost feel it was done to take the scoring aspect of kickoff returns out of the game

(it should though benefit teams the teams with the worse kick return games (an example could be the Colts) while it can also hurt teams that have the threatening return games)
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It used to be at the 35 before the last time they changed it. ....fewer kick returns. benefits the defense.
 
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TrueOrange said:
moving up kickoff returns to the 35 kinda bothers me.

I almost feel it was done to take the scoring aspect of kickoff returns out of the game

(it should though benefit teams the teams with the worse kick return games (an example could be the Colts) while it can also hurt teams that have the threatening return games)
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Apparently there's some decent evidence that shows that a ton of bad injuries happen on kickoff returns. Which makes sense, given the wedge-busting, the high speeds, the marginal players looking to woodshed somebody in order to get noticed. I bet in 10 years kickoffs are gone completely.
 
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