New Rules/ Referees (not just TN game)

#26
#26
Just think of how much better the game will be when the players adjust and the defensive players no longer get to use tactics that are illegal, have always been illegal, and have no place in the game of basketball. The slopfest that the college game had turned into needed a major revamping.
 
#27
#27
Sure, it SHOULD look better once players get used to it.

But given the generally pitiful quality of NCAA officials I can easily see this getting worse as officials continue making calls on less and less contact, deeper in the season. Add to that many crews struggle to call a game consistently there will be some pug ugly games all over the calendar.

Its really my big concern for UT. I've always thought CCM's teams look like they have a hard time when they're getting tough whistle (which is a lot of nights, given the way they defend). Particularly early in games, it seems like their head and shoulders drop on the first couple tickytack fouls on defense.

He'll really have to work on that give the way the first week of games look. Thankfully there are a few cupcakes to work on in Nov/Dec.
 
#29
#29
LittleCat said:
Basketball needs this rule IMO. To much hand checks and reaching/holding offensive players on drive were holding the game back. Once the players realize there isn't a point in making contact then they'll stop and fouls should go down. Yes, it'll suck for now. But in the long run it'll be better.
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I agree. It is impossible to call a game consistently without it. I wish they would call Pass interference like this as well. Either you physically touched a player or you didn't.

In all honesty, I was really impressed with Izzo last night. Guys like him a Petino have made a icing on this contact and hand checking on the perimeter.
 
#33
#33
The people at the NCAA, the college presidents, the college Ads, and the college coaches complained loudly at how physical and ugly college basketball had become. As a result, the NCAA Rules Committee got together and came out with some changes that were not really changes. They were merely emphasizing the original rules of the game, how the game was played 20 years ago before officials started letting the game get away from them.

These rules include:

1) Blocking and Charging Calls
In short, defenders are now required to establish position before their man leaves his feet and begins his shooting motion in order to draw a charge. Gone, in theory, are the days of guys sliding in and setting their feet while a player is already on his way up to the hoop. Attempting a move like that will now result in a blocking foul.

2) * Keeping hand or forearm on an opponent.
* Putting two hands on an opponent
* Continually jabbing an opponent by extending an arm or placing a hand or forearm on the opponent.
* Using an arm bar to impede the progress of a dribbler.
This rule change will greatly limit the degree to which a defender can use his hands and arms to defend his man. Essentially, defenders can no longer keep either hand pressed against their opponents while defending, nor can they repeatedly "jab" at a player who is dribbling the ball (otherwise known as the go-to strategy for people who are awful at basketball video games). Using an "arm-bar" to inhibit an opponent's movement will now also be treated as a no-no.

3) Video Review
Here, the NCAA's panel has adopted a policy that will allow referees to go the monitor for several reasons during gameplay. Officials can now look for/at:
* Possible shot clock violations (last two minutes of regulation or overtime)
* Which player last touches the ball when it goes out of bounds (same timing as the shot clock review)
* Which player commits a foul when the offender is not immediately obvious (entire game)
* Whether or not long-range field goals are good for two or three points (entire game, automatic during last four minutes)
* The NCAA has created a situation that allows for some leeway on the part of the officials, as hotly contested or unclear plays during crunch time can now be reviewed for accuracy. These changes will almost certainly lengthen games, as they allow for increased stoppages during a time period (the last few minutes of the half) that is already rife with timeouts, fouls, and turnovers.

4) Elbowing fouls
Previously, the rules regarding players' elbows contacting opponents above the shoulders were pretty rigid. Flagrant 1 fouls were being called in situations that did not merit them due to the rule's inflexibility. Under the new rules, officials may examine video evidence to determine whether a Flagrant 1, Flagrant 2, or no foul (incidental contact) is the correct call. This rule's intent is to hold players accountable for their physicality without games being turned on "letter of the law" moments, where the officials know that no foul has been committed but are forced by the rulebook to call a flagrant foul regardless.

Adjusting to these new rules are going to require an adjustment from the players, and the coaches. The coaches are going to have to plan their defensive schemes completely differently now. I can foresee teams playing more match up zones as a result. Straight up man to man defense is not going to be able to stop guys who can make plays off of the dribble or big men who can post up strong inside and has very good offensive moves.

These rules are going to clean up the game, make it flow better, create more offensive opportunities, and put an emphasis on basketball skills, not see who can get away with holding another player the best. The game had gotten ugly and way out of hand in my opinion as well.
 
#35
#35
I agree! But as long as it's called evenly(and it never seems like it is), we'll have to deal with it. There is one thing we can control, FREE THROW SHOOTING!
When we lose by much less than the # of Free Throws missed, you can't help but think the game should have been won!
MAKE THE FREE THROWS, OVERCOME THE TICKY TACK FOULS CALLED = A GREAT TEAM!
 
#36
#36
imbubbaspitcup said:
I agree. The new rules in college basketball is going to kill the game for sure. You cannot even leave a finger print on another player now. I watched the Kentucky game also & they suffered just like we did with these fouls. The SEC is just a physical conference & we will suffer so much from these new rules. We still almost came out with a win on the road against a good team for our first game of the season. If we would have shot just 60% from the line we win the game. Jordan McRae is our best free throw shooter & he missed a lot tonight.
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The SEC is terrible. Terrible. Maybe it shouldn't be such a physical conference and learn to play the game. Quit recruiting athletes and start recruiting basketball players.
 
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#37
#37
Tux said:
The people at the NCAA, the college presidents, the college Ads, and the college coaches complained loudly at how physical and ugly college basketball had become. As a result, the NCAA Rules Committee got together and came out with some changes that were not really changes. They were merely emphasizing the original rules of the game, how the game was played 20 years ago before officials started letting the game get away from them.

These rules include:

1) Blocking and Charging Calls
In short, defenders are now required to establish position before their man leaves his feet and begins his shooting motion in order to draw a charge. Gone, in theory, are the days of guys sliding in and setting their feet while a player is already on his way up to the hoop. Attempting a move like that will now result in a blocking foul.

2) * Keeping hand or forearm on an opponent.
* Putting two hands on an opponent
* Continually jabbing an opponent by extending an arm or placing a hand or forearm on the opponent.
* Using an arm bar to impede the progress of a dribbler.
This rule change will greatly limit the degree to which a defender can use his hands and arms to defend his man. Essentially, defenders can no longer keep either hand pressed against their opponents while defending, nor can they repeatedly "jab" at a player who is dribbling the ball (otherwise known as the go-to strategy for people who are awful at basketball video games). Using an "arm-bar" to inhibit an opponent's movement will now also be treated as a no-no.

3) Video Review
Here, the NCAA's panel has adopted a policy that will allow referees to go the monitor for several reasons during gameplay. Officials can now look for/at:
* Possible shot clock violations (last two minutes of regulation or overtime)
* Which player last touches the ball when it goes out of bounds (same timing as the shot clock review)
* Which player commits a foul when the offender is not immediately obvious (entire game)
* Whether or not long-range field goals are good for two or three points (entire game, automatic during last four minutes)
* The NCAA has created a situation that allows for some leeway on the part of the officials, as hotly contested or unclear plays during crunch time can now be reviewed for accuracy. These changes will almost certainly lengthen games, as they allow for increased stoppages during a time period (the last few minutes of the half) that is already rife with timeouts, fouls, and turnovers.

4) Elbowing fouls
Previously, the rules regarding players' elbows contacting opponents above the shoulders were pretty rigid. Flagrant 1 fouls were being called in situations that did not merit them due to the rule's inflexibility. Under the new rules, officials may examine video evidence to determine whether a Flagrant 1, Flagrant 2, or no foul (incidental contact) is the correct call. This rule's intent is to hold players accountable for their physicality without games being turned on "letter of the law" moments, where the officials know that no foul has been committed but are forced by the rulebook to call a flagrant foul regardless.

Adjusting to these new rules are going to require an adjustment from the players, and the coaches. The coaches are going to have to plan their defensive schemes completely differently now. I can foresee teams playing more match up zones as a result. Straight up man to man defense is not going to be able to stop guys who can make plays off of the dribble or big men who can post up strong inside and has very good offensive moves.

These rules are going to clean up the game, make it flow better, create more offensive opportunities, and put an emphasis on basketball skills, not see who can get away with holding another player the best. The game had gotten ugly and way out of hand in my opinion as well.
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Cool story, do you have any back up to support the above statement?
 
#38
#38
I found it almost impossible to watch. I guess it will taking some adjustment for all. I did reach out to a buddy of mine who is a ref and he replied that they were told "call the fouls or start losing your games'.
 
#39
#39
I like it. College basketball especially in the SEC the last few years has resembled football on how it's been played. It's more fun to watch when the fundamentals like moving your feet, boxing out, and setting screens (properly) are rewarded. It's a situation where over time if the calls are consistent, fundamental basketball might have a chance to show up again. Ok bash away :)
 
#40
#40
at least the new football rules are trying to make it safer. the new basketball rules accomplish nothing. just slows the game down even more.
 
#42
#42
I think occasional zone would greatly benefit this team by potentially preventing bigs from picking up fouls by helping as well as provide rest to our stars like McRae. Especially in late game situations if we're ahead
 
#43
#43
clay1551 said:
I think occasional zone would greatly benefit this team by potentially preventing bigs from picking up fouls by helping as well as provide rest to our stars like McRae. Especially in late game situations if we're ahead
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that would never happen but this team could be tough in a Michigan st type zone because of their length on the wings to shut off angles or get a hand in the shooter's face. Would be great to have with the handcheck rules and Stokes propensity for foul trouble.
 
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