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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've needed rental cars every so often for my job, and I often take the minivan as an option if I'm carrying around a bunch of test equipment and suitcases while traveling. Very convenient.
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I bought a Ram cargo minivan for business and drove it daily for a couple of years after I closed the business. It had no seats in the back, just an open cargo bed. I liked it. You could haul anything.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I bought a Ram cargo minivan for business and drove it daily for a couple of years after I closed the business. It had no seats in the back, just an open cargo bed. I liked it. You could haul anything.
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Yep...

The one drawback, however, is that I often work in rough terrain, so it would be nice to have 4X4, but the few times I've had the minivan, that hasn't been an issue.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Yep...

The one drawback, however, is that I often work in rough terrain, so it would be nice to have 4X4, but the few times I've had the minivan, that hasn't been an issue.
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My wife won't have a minivan either. She drives a 2019 GMC Acadia, and says it's not big enough to haul everything she wants. She traded a Buick Enclave, which until a couple of years ago was the same size as the Acadia. They downsized the Acadia by about a foot behind the rear seat. She needs a box truck I think.
 
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GordonC said:
A friend of mine got a Mazda CX5. He got one with all the bells and whistles. I don't care about any of the tech/convenience features that seem to matter to a lot of folks, but that CX5 is a pretty sweet ride. I think the next size up is the CX9.
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Wife also recently bought a CX5. They are a little small but definitely a nice vehicle.

Cant go wrong with Toyota, Honda/Acura, or Subaru. I would stay far away from GM. JMO.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Wife also recently bought a CX5. They are a little small but definitely a nice vehicle.

Cant go wrong with Toyota, Honda/Acura, or Subaru. I would stay far away from GM. JMO.
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My wife has had 3 with no problems. She puts about 90,000 on them and moves on to the next. Same with Jeeps before that. Everybody complains about Jeep, and we put over 100,000 on 2 different ones with zero issues.
 
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1972 Grad said:
My wife has had 3 with no problems. She puts about 90,000 on them and moves on to the next. Same with Jeeps before that. Everybody complains about Jeep, and we put over 100,000 on 2 different ones with zero issues.
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I dont think GMs are necessarily bad vehicles, I just think the quality of matierals used to build them is cheap and the resale value is horrible, especially when compared to Toyota.
 
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McDad said:
Think I saw a commercial for 0% interest by an automaker. Don't know which one. Of course, to get that you likely need a perfect credit score.
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people with perfect credit scores likely wouldnt use credit, ironically.

we try to pay cash.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I dont think GMs are necessarily bad vehicles, I just think the quality of matierals used to build them is cheap and the resale value is horrible, especially when compared to Toyota.
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I have a 2017 Avalon, and I am very happy with it, but don't really feel it is superior to the GM cars that we've owned. Plus, the trade-in value on a 3 year old Avalon Limited is about half the $40,000 sticker price. Maybe Toyota trucks or SUV's have good resale, but the Avalon doesn't really.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I have a 2017 Avalon, and I am very happy with it, but don't really feel it is superior to the GM cars that we've owned. Plus, the trade-in value on a 3 year old Avalon Limited is about half the $40,000 sticker price. Maybe Toyota trucks or SUV's have good resale, but the Avalon doesn't really.
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Resale value. Not trade in value. Any time you trade a vehicle you are losing money in basically any scenario.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I have a 2017 Avalon, and I am very happy with it, but don't really feel it is superior to the GM cars that we've owned. Plus, the trade-in value on a 3 year old Avalon Limited is about half the $40,000 sticker price. Maybe Toyota trucks or SUV's have good resale, but the Avalon doesn't really.
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Well I hate my wife's Avalon ( i call it the webble wobble car) because of the twitchy steering but anyhow and it aint good for big boys.
So for giggles I pulled the value of a 2017 Chevy Impala 4Dr "premium" still no leather or v6 or some of the perks on the Avalon and I used 60000 miles with very good condition. New price was north of $38000 and trade value now is $14,000. I bought a new 2005 4 runner because in 05 with a V8 because the 03 was holding value so good I could buy what I wanted for about the same money with out the stuff I didn't want (leather seats, v6 etc...) I bought a new Tundra in 16 for the same reason a 2 or 3 year old truck was on par of me ordering what I wanted. You may be right about the 4x$ stuff since I own 2 trucks and 2 4 runners but my mom trades out about every 3-4 years with extremely low milage Camrys or Avalons and she always gets a high resale value, YMMV.
 
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VolNExile said:
Not an SUV (don’t know how big you’re thinking), but when my 2002 Accord finally disintegrates into a pile of oxidized silver paint, we’re looking at Subaru Outbacks.

It has great visibility, I like their cameras and other safety assists, and I like not having to climb up into (or fall out of) my daily driver.

Yes, it’s great for old farts like me, but it can be plenty distracting driving a little one around, too.
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I keep saying the same thing about my 05’ accord but the darn thing just seems to get better with age (almost 200k). First car I ever bought and it’s helped me run around my two kids. I’ve always loved Jeep Cherokees but I start thinking about making that monthly payment and I feel content w/my Honda. My sister has a new outback and she loves it.
 
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TC 83 said:
I keep saying the same thing about my 05’ accord but the darn thing just seems to get better with age (almost 200k). First car I ever bought and it’s helped me run around my two kids. I’ve always loved Jeep Cherokees but I start thinking about making that monthly payment and I feel content w/my Honda. My sister has a new outback and she loves it.
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Somewhere around 240k here, on the third timing belt (original + two updates). AC crapped out, which seems to be a Honda Thang, but I just keep goosing it through the hot weather. My beloved original 5-disc CD player died, and now I have a baffling piece o’crap Panasonic 1-disc with baffling controls, but the car starts faithfully every time.

The paint has really deteriorated in the last several years though (no garage, alas), and it would be more accurate to call it pale grey than silver, but the leather seats have molded themselves nicely to our posteriors, and I still can’t justify replacing it, even though a 2020 Outback would be much safer and more convenient gadget-wise.

By the way, per the ads at our local dealer, Subaru is offering 0% for 63 months (5 years + 3 months.)
 
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bag12day said:
Well I hate my wife's Avalon ( i call it the webble wobble car) because of the twitchy steering but anyhow and it aint good for big boys.
So for giggles I pulled the value of a 2017 Chevy Impala 4Dr "premium" still no leather or v6 or some of the perks on the Avalon and I used 60000 miles with very good condition. New price was north of $38000 and trade value now is $14,000. I bought a new 2005 4 runner because in 05 with a V8 because the 03 was holding value so good I could buy what I wanted for about the same money with out the stuff I didn't want (leather seats, v6 etc...) I bought a new Tundra in 16 for the same reason a 2 or 3 year old truck was on par of me ordering what I wanted. You may be right about the 4x$ stuff since I own 2 trucks and 2 4 runners but my mom trades out about every 3-4 years with extremely low milage Camrys or Avalons and she always gets a high resale value, YMMV.
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I don't find that the steering is twitchy on mine. It's a good car, but nobody wants cars anymore. They want SUV's , which is basically what a station wagon once was..
 
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1972 Grad said:
I don't find that the steering is twitchy on mine. It's a good car, but nobody wants cars anymore. They want SUV's , which is basically what a station wagon once was..
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My wifes is twitchy (which we bought from my mom who bought it new) compared to my trucks, my 4 runners and my Chevelle that has a full pro-touring suspension but 600+hp so its a bit twitchy too lol.
 
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bag12day said:
My wifes is twitchy (which we bought from my mom who bought it new) compared to my trucks, my 4 runners and my Chevelle that has a full pro-touring suspension but 600+hp so its a bit twitchy too lol.
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Looks like a nice 70 to me. What year is the Avalon?
 
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GordonC said:
A friend of mine got a Mazda CX5. He got one with all the bells and whistles. I don't care about any of the tech/convenience features that seem to matter to a lot of folks, but that CX5 is a pretty sweet ride. I think the next size up is the CX9.
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This is what I have 2015. Got a nice deal in the summer since that's when they rolled out the 2016s.
 
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Chances are I'd still be driving the 1986 Subaru DL wagon with hi/lo manual 4wd if an arrogant fellow from Illinois hadn't run a red light and crushed the front end in 1999. Drove the next car (2000 Honda Accord Coupe 4cyl EX) until last year. Needed a vehicle better suited to hauling bikes and gear to 3-day loop rides. Bought a 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid - good safety rating, drives well, comfortable over distances, getting over 40mpg. Only quirk is the fuel filler throat. At high dispense rate, fuel pump will shut off before the tank is full. Gotta use low dispense rate and know apx how many gallons you need. May have to squeeze in the last gallon or so after auto shut off. Don't know if Toyota fixed that for 2020.
 
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My wife is looking for a replacement SUV as well and she had been doing some looking around before the lock down happened.
I am curious whether anyone on the board has any experience with purchasing vehicles thru places like Carvana or other on line only sites.
On the surface it looks like some potential savings to be had but I don't trust anyone so there has to be some hidden jewels out there.
 
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