Next Year: Final 4 or Bust.

#26
#26
cncchris33 said:
They all had plenty of leadership and two of the three had at least two NBA players on the roster. You're way off there IMO.
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People think because you are a mid-major then that means you don't have talent (or leadership). I think Stoked needs to go back and look at those teams especially the guards.
 
#27
#27
cncchris33 said:
Bingo. For every brilliant game McRae has like Friday's, he has a maddening 1-9, 4 TO performance. I need to see more consistency before I can believe he is anything more than his predictably streaky self.
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hmmm id say McRae has been our most consistent player this year.
 
#28
#28
I just want to go back to the dance. Take us their please CCM. I really don't think it will be this year. Hopefully, next.
 
#29
#29
OrangeBalls said:
People think because you are a mid-major then that means you don't have talent (or leadership). I think Stoked needs to go back and look at those teams especially the guards.
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That's the bread and butter of most of those mid major teams, their PGs are blazing quick and good leaders. Usually 1-3 position are all good ball handlers.
 
#30
#30
bleedingTNorange said:
hmmm id say McRae has been our most consistent player this year.
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Let me clarify. You are right, he has been more consistent this year. Inconsistency was the name of the game for him over his first two seasons. I want to see him do it dor a full season this year before I expect it from him next year.

Does that make more sense?
 
#31
#31
OrangeBalls said:
Those teams had good guard play. Most teams that make it that far have good guard play. UT has average guard play right now.

Yes, no one knows what the draw will be, but to expect a Final 4 when we haven't even made the dance yet and aren't a lock yet is a bit much. Let's make a dance first.
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Butler had Shelvin Mack and Gordon Hayward and then Matt Howard down low. That's who I know right off the top of my head. I know a lot about Mack I watched a lot of his HS games at Bryan Station in Lexington since they're about 30 min from my home town. Golden can be what Mack was for that team by next year if he gets healthy. Between Hubbs, McRae, and Richardson they can bring what Gordon and the other guards Butler had and Maymon and Stokes is way better than the backcourt they had, which was pretty much just Matt Howard. I don't remember much about VCU and GM though.
 
#32
#32
cncchris33 said:
Let me clarify. You are right, he has been more consistent this year. Inconsistency was the name of the game for him over his first two seasons. I want to see him do it dor a full season this year before I expect it from him next year.

Does that make more sense?
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I got ya now, and I agree. I hope last game was a sign of things to come, I hope there's only more to come the rest of the season and he finished strong.

He does that and I see him being a 15ppg scorer next season.
 
#33
#33
Stoked4Zo said:
Butler had Shelvin Mack and Gordon Hayward and then Matt Howard down low. That's who I know right off the top of my head. I know a lot about Mack I watched a lot of his HS games at Bryan Station in Lexington since they're about 30 min from my home town. Golden can be what Mack was for that team by next year if he gets healthy. Between Hubbs, McRae, and Richardson they can bring what Gordon and the other guards Butler had and Maymon and Stokes is way better than the backcourt they had, which was pretty much just Matt Howard. I don't remember much about VCU and GM though.
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The key in NCAAs is matchups.

If we can draw teams with good guards that are slower we'll be fine, if we drew like UL with Siva forget it.

Trying to think off the top of my head, but Florida with Wilbekin at PG, he's not a blazing quick PG, we may fare well against them. On the flip side Pressey Mizzou gives me nightmares.
 
#34
#34
Stoked4Zo said:
Butler had Shelvin Mack and Gordon Hayward and then Matt Howard down low. That's who I know right off the top of my head. I know a lot about Mack I watched a lot of his HS games at Bryan Station in Lexington since they're about 30 min from my home town. Golden can be what Mack was for that team by next year if he gets healthy. Between Hubbs, McRae, and Richardson they can bring what Gordon and the other guards Butler had and Maymon and Stokes is way better than the backcourt they had, which was pretty much just Matt Howard. I don't remember much about VCU and GM though.
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Eric Maynor and Larry Sanders were both 1st round picks from VCU.
 
#36
#36
Stoked4Zo said:
Well I take back what I said lol. Still, I think we will have just as much talent as all of those teams.
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If Stokes develops further and becomes a 1st rounder (which right now he isn't), and Hubbs is everything fans expect, you MIGHT be correct. There are several "ifs" there though.
 
#37
#37
cncchris33 said:
If Stokes develops further and becomes a 1st rounder (which right now he isn't), and Hubbs is everything fans expect, you MIGHT be correct. There are several "ifs" there though.
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Like I said, matchups our big, if we drew slower guards we'd be ok. Would like to see the staff pursue a JUCO PG. not only for next year, but for the year after that way we'll have an experienced PG and aren't solely relying on a freshman PG.
 
#38
#38
bleedingTNorange said:
Like I said, matchups our big, if we drew slower guards we'd be ok. Would like to see the staff pursue a JUCO PG. not only for next year, but for the year after that way we'll have an experienced PG and aren't solely relying on a freshman PG.
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Agree on the JUCO PG front. Maymon redshirting complicates that unless someone leaves (Moore?).
 
#39
#39
Teams that advance past the Sweet 16 usually have a breakdown guard or someone that can beat his man off the dribble in a close game. How many times did Golden try and do that last year and not succeed? We don't have that. If this team had even a Bobby Maze they'd be so much better. Maze wasn't a good outside shooter but he could beat his guy off the dribble most of the time.

I think putting too much on Hubbs is not going to turn out well. We did it with Hopson. Fortunately, we should have plenty of other options. I just hope this team makes it to the dance to get a taste before next season. Trying to expect them to go to the Final 4 when most of the team has had very little experience in the dance is expecting too much IMO.
 
#41
#41
Sweet. I had no idea Pearl, Lofton, Jajuan, Chism and Prince were coming back.

Seriously though...I just want to see us make the tournament at this point. A lot of cause for concern imo.
 
#46
#46
OrangeBalls said:
Teams that advance past the Sweet 16 usually have a breakdown guard or someone that can beat his man off the dribble in a close game. How many times did Golden try and do that last year and not succeed? We don't have that. If this team had even a Bobby Maze they'd be so much better. Maze wasn't a good outside shooter but he could beat his guy off the dribble most of the time.

I think putting too much on Hubbs is not going to turn out well. We did it with Hopson. Fortunately, we should have plenty of other options. I just hope this team makes it to the dance to get a taste before next season. Trying to expect them to go to the Final 4 when most of the team has had very little experience in the dance is expecting too much IMO.
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Exactly. Too much can factor into a final four run that can't be controlled. Also, you have to see how Hubbs game translates first... People need to temper expectations IMO
 
#47
#47
Here is the first big question for me. What if Maymon's knee does not respond and he is only about 50% of what he once was? That totally changes the landscape. I am very concerned that this may be the case.
 
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#48
#48
Stoked4Zo said:
Is there any other teams that will have the upperclassman plus a 5 star freshman like we have. I mean seriously? Seniors- Maymon, Golden, and McRae...Juniors- Stokes an Ricardson and then adding Hubbs!!! Maymon and Richardson are both going to be the teams leaders.
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maybe not, but Kentucky will have about 8 NBA players on their roster.
 
#49
#49
stoked4zo said:
is there any other teams that will have the upperclassman plus a 5 star freshman like we have. I mean seriously? Seniors- maymon, golden, and mcrae...juniors- stokes an ricardson and then adding hubbs!!! Maymon and richardson are both going to be the teams leaders.
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unc.
 
#50
#50
Its time we set a new record, Bruce took us to the elite eight, now martin take us to a final 4 and cut down some damn nets! GO VOLS!
 
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