Neyland Stadium Throwback

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Speaking of basketball I was able to go to a game at Rupp last year (all my in laws are huge Kentucky fans). I was really surprised how similar it is to Thompson Boling. Same tan exterior, almost identical layout inside. Does anyone know if they have anything in common? It almost seemed like one of the schools bought the same plans from the other.
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
Speaking of basketball I was able to go to a game at Rupp last year (all my in laws are huge Kentucky fans). I was really surprised how similar it is to Thompson Boling. Same tan exterior, almost identical layout inside. Does anyone know if they have anything in common? It almost seemed like one of the schools bought the same plans from the other.
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Yes, TBA's design was influenced by Rupp and the newly opened (at the time) Dean Smith Center at UNC.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
The old Alumni Memorial Gym is to the West North West of the grassy hill where the UT is painted on the hill. The old black and White score board was where that UT was painted. I remember when Kentucky played basketball against us back in the 50s and Rupp's team came out of the locker room wearing miner's helmets with the gas light on the helmets lit. Lighting in the old gym was not very good.
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Yeah realized that when I spotted it on Google Maps. I swore it was further up the road closer to the entrance into East Stadium Hall. I remember the first time I had to go in there for biology class. Creepy!
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
The old Alumni Memorial Gym is to the West North West of the grassy hill where the UT is painted on the hill. The old black and White score board was where that UT was painted. I remember when Kentucky played basketball against us back in the 50s and Rupp's team came out of the locker room wearing miner's helmets with the gas light on the helmets lit. Lighting in the old gym was not very good.
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Yeah realized that when I spotted it on Google Maps. I swore it was further up the road closer to the entrance into East Stadium Hall. I remember the first time I had to go in there for biology class. Creepy!
 
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Good stuff PT! Did you happen to take any pics during the March 5, 1977 UT/UK game? Still to this day my all time favorite memory from any game I have attended in any sport.
 
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ZZ13 said:
Good stuff PT! Did you happen to take any pics during the March 5, 1977 UT/UK game? Still to this day my all time favorite memory from any game I have attended in any sport.
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I had an old Minolta and this was the only game I drug it too. There was a darkroom for student use in the basement of Alumni Gym. I messed around with photography some.. Good hobby.

Yes, I was there that day. Bernard lit it up. For those who don't know it, Stokely wasn't glamorous by any means. But it rocked in those days. Students having to camp out to get tickets. Very Electric. Old pictures of Stokely have the signature HVAC ductwork in every picture. lol Yes, good days, and I'm very happy Admiral and Grant have brought back some of this electricity. Happy days are back for the time being.

Couple more:
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ZZ13 said:
Good stuff PT! Did you happen to take any pics during the March 5, 1977 UT/UK game? Still to this day my all time favorite memory from any game I have attended in any sport.
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One of my favorite memories was the '84 UT/UK basketball game in Stokely. UK was highly ranked with Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin, and Kenny "Sky" Walker.

I was sitting on the floor at the base line. Was that the 1st year of the shot clock in the SEC. I seem to recall a big box right next to me and I think it was the shot clock.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
I was there for that game also and I agree that it was one of the most incredibly athletic plays that I have ever witnessed. The description quoted above is accurate but does not do justice to Condredge's performance. He did. indeed, roll out to the right, then retreated and reversed field back to the 19-yard line before heaving the ball deep into the back of the endzone, just as he was going down. Indeed, he made that throw off of his back foot. Larry made a tremendous leaping catch to give us the victory. If you haven't seen this play before, fast-forward to the 5:25 mark of .
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As I age, I recall most of those plays because of John Ward. Seeing his video made me weep, yet feel the joy of the past. PLEASE, CJP, make the Vols great again!
 
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Boca Vol said:
One of my favorite memories was the '84 UT/UK basketball game in Stokely. UK was highly ranked with Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin, and Kenny "Sky" Walker.

I was sitting on the floor at the base line. Was that the 1st year of the shot clock in the SEC. I seem to recall a big box right next to me and I think it was the shot clock.
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There is a video of an earlier UT/KY game on youtube. I watched it a while ago. Couldn't find this particular game you referred to.

I find it pretty amazing at the precision and quickness of John Ward's call of this game. You get a pretty good picture of what the game was like to most listeners with your eyes closed, but to listen and see what he was seeing at the same time. Ward was on top of his game here, and to me, he was good at football, but brilliant at basketball. You can hear him calling out Kentucky's defense "They shift into a 1-4 zone". I mean, dang.. Even Ray Mears watching a replay said he didn't see some of the things Ward was seeing at the time. (Knoxville TV replayed the games at night with John Wards call on the audio).

Thread is drifting a tad away from the stadium. Apologize for that.
 
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ptcarter said:
No idea the year here. Please comment if you know.

I ask my sons, "Why is there an offensive tackle? Who is he going to tackle?"

Maybe this is lost on this generation, but back in the days when these pictures were made, there was a substitution rule. I'm not sure the details, but basically if someone came out, they couldn't go back in, at least for a while.

Everybody played both sides. A tackle was just "a tackle".

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It was Neyland who resisted the charge to go away from those old substitution rules. College football had traditionally used the same players on both sides of the ball, but that begin to change in the late '40s when teams started to use specialized offensive and defensive players. In 1954, the NCAA implemented a substitution rule allowing only one substitution between plays. That effective ended "platoon football," as it was called then, because you couldn't substitute an entire unit. Neyland was a big proponent of the substitution rule; he called the two-platoon system "chickensh*t football." There's a funny story of a rules committee meeting...I can't find the exact text, but it goes something like this: someone proposed to eliminate the substitution rule. Neyland immediately made a motion that CFB stick with single platoon football, then jerked up the arm of the person sitting beside him and said, "Second! Any opposed? Good! We'll have no return to chickensh*t football this year!"

It must've worked. College football didn't do away with the substitution limits until after Neyland had died. I think a lot of people have forgotten just how much of an impact General Neyland had on the game.

Edited to add: Here's a slightly different account, from Ronald A. Smith's book, "Play By Play":

"At the 1960 rules meeting (Neyland was chairman of the committee, btw), Neyland was trying to avoid a vote on unlimited substitution when coach Frank Howard of Clemson forced the question. With a recent change in committee structure, there was now an overwhelming majority in favor of free substitution. Cornered, Neyland asked for all those who opposed to two-platoon football to raise their hands. Neyland immediately grasped the hand of David Nelson, who was sitting at the head of the table with him, and raised it along with his own. He then declared: "There doesn't seem to be any sentiment to return to that chicken-sh*t football. Meeting is adjourned," and walked out."

Nelson later said, "The last thing I remember about that meeting is Frank Howard chasing the General down the hall screaming, "Foul!" Lol...
 
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Boca Vol said:
One of my favorite memories was the '84 UT/UK basketball game in Stokely. UK was highly ranked with Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin, and Kenny "Sky" Walker.

I was sitting on the floor at the base line. Was that the 1st year of the shot clock in the SEC. I seem to recall a big box right next to me and I think it was the shot clock.
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I have a piece of the net from that game. Michael Brooks lit UK up!
 
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ptcarter said:
Another shot I took during that Clemson game (which was epic - the game, not my shot).
This looks like a TD to me! Often wondered where the other 21 players were? Looks like he came out to practice early!

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Nice pics. I was there that day, an undergraduate.
 
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