Nick Saban, a Negabammer?

#26
#26
Boca Vol said:
Saban demands excellence, period.

I'll never forget watching the BCS title game following the '11 season between Bama & LSU. Bama received their 1st penalty of the game with about 1:30-2:00 to go in the game and you would have thought Bama was on the verge of losing with the way Saban reacted.
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yeah because of all the money he paid to get the game called his way. not that they needed the help, but even my Bama fan dad admitted that game wasn't called fairly.
 
#27
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LouderVol said:
yeah because of all the money he paid to get the game called his way. not that they needed the help, but even my Bama fan dad admitted that game wasn't called fairly.
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Hang on...

What about that game in particular leads you to think it "wasn't called fairly?"
 
#28
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Things like this is what separates the great coaches from mediocre ones. Saban is upset even though his team dominated. Whereas some other coaches would be happy and content with just finding a way to win.
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I despise the man but you can't get complacent. He won't hesitate to put media or their fan base in their place either. He has some of the best rants ever
 
#30
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Kiffin probably needs and gets his a** chewed about twice a week. He has that type of personality. I don't think he has the personality that responds to pats on the back, or "You'll get them next time.":nono::realmad:
 
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#31
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LouderVol said:
who just had his salary doubled. higher pay, higher standards. this isn't Dooley chewing out Sunseri, Saban is great because of stuff like this, you know what is going to happen.
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Lane's going to quit on him and Bama's going to be mediocre this season? It's the kind of strategy that can backfire easily. I doubt Kiffin really needs the money at this point, so being treated in a manner equal to his position should count in his mind if not Sabans. Not to mention that it undermines Kiffin's authority with his players if they think he's not doing his job right.

And then there's the problem of the game being a complete blowout of a victory as it was. The other team was being payed to lay down in the first place, which implies complacency just by the fact it was scheduled. Instead of getting whiny about games like this, Bama should play more out of conference top 10 teams.
 
#32
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bamawriter said:
Hang on...

What about that game in particular leads you to think it "wasn't called fairly?"
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in particular I don't remember. I remember commenting to my dad and him finally admitting it wasn't called fairly. going off of generalities from watching Bama that year I was probably sitting there saying "holding, holding, Holding HOLDING!"
 
#33
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LouderVol said:
in particular I don't remember. I remember commenting to my dad and him finally admitting it wasn't called fairly. going off of generalities from watching Bama that year I was probably sitting there saying "holding, holding, Holding HOLDING!"
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Neither team was called for holding in that game. In fact, none of the penalties were "judgement calls". LSU had 5 penalties for 35 yards: 3 false starts, 1 offside, 1 hitting a returner who'd called a fair catch. Kind of a great example of letting both teams play.
 
#34
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jvol1 said:
Lane's going to quit on him and Bama's going to be mediocre this season? It's the kind of strategy that can backfire easily. I doubt Kiffin really needs the money at this point, so being treated in a manner equal to his position should count in his mind if not Sabans. Not to mention that it undermines Kiffin's authority with his players if they think he's not doing his job right.

And then there's the problem of the game being a complete blowout of a victory as it was. The other team was being payed to lay down in the first place, which implies complacency just by the fact it was scheduled. Instead of getting whiny about games like this, Bama should play more out of conference top 10 teams.
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again its what Saban does. he coaches to the very end. I am willing to bet the people working for him know about it and are willing to put up with it because he wins. its a problem that would sort itself out.
 
#35
#35
LouderVol said:
again its what Saban does. he coaches to the very end. I am willing to bet the people working for him know about it and are willing to put up with it because he wins. its a problem that would sort itself out.
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This kind of behavior has nothing to do with Saban's success. If anything, it shows that Saban himself is becoming complacent (which would be easy to do after all those wins).
 
#36
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jvol1 said:
This kind of behavior has nothing to do with Saban's success. If anything, it shows that Saban himself is becoming complacent (which would be easy to do after all those wins).
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So, let me get this straight:

Saban flips out over a late turnover by his second string in a game that Bama leads by 5 TDs, and that's a sign of someone who's becoming complacent?
 
#37
#37
bamawriter said:
So, let me get this straight:

Saban flips out over a late turnover by his second string in a game that Bama leads by 5 TDs, and that's a sign of someone who's becoming complacent?
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People stop responding to megalomania at some point. Whether or not that's it, I can't say. But the whole episode is kind of silly, and doesn't, imo, reflect a winning attitude on Saban's part.
 
#38
#38
jvol1 said:
People stop responding to megalomania at some point. Whether or not that's it, I can't say. But the whole episode is kind of silly, and doesn't, imo, reflect a winning attitude on Saban's part.
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Is it a sign of complacency? Yes or no?
 
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