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QB's father says Barnes left Tide over Saban's treatment

Associated Press

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Alabama quarterback Jimmy Barnes quit the team because he was unhappy with coach Nick Saban's treatment, not over lack of playing time, his father said.


"To be honest with you, it's the way [Saban] is treating kids," John Barnes told The Birmingham News in a story Thursday. "What Jim told Saban was he was not going to give up his dignity and be treated like that."
The longtime head coach at Los Alamitos High in southern California didn't elaborate, but said Saban's verbal treatment of players "just wore" on Barnes.
Saban, however, said John Barnes' comments came as "a shock to me."
"First of all, Jimmy didn't say that to me," he said. "I don't know of any circumstance that I treated any kid here -- or anybody in our program -- in a way that would affect their dignity."

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To be honest with you, it's the way [Saban] is treating kids. What Jim told Saban was he was not going to give up his dignity and be treated like that.
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John Barnes was the Crimson Tide's No. 2 quarterback last fall, but was limited to non-contact drills in spring practice because of a knee injury. Freshman Greg McElroy spent the spring as John Parker Wilson's backup.

Saban said Barnes told him "he just made a personal decision to make a change, to go to a [Division] I-AA school."
"I told him we didn't really want him to leave," he said. "We would love to keep him in the program to develop."
Two of Barnes' former teammates disputed the characterization of Saban's treatment of the team.
"One thing he is really big about is treating people with respect," defensive end Wallace Gilberry said.
Wilson added that "respect is a big issue around here."
Barnes completed 6-of-11 passes for 45 yards and a touchdown against Florida International and also played six snaps against Louisiana-Monroe.
Barnes, who was recruited by former coach Mike Shula, hurt his knee during practice on Dec. 2, about a month before Saban's hiring.
"I don't know Jimmy very well," Saban said. "Because of his injury, he really didn't fully participate in spring practice and he wasn't able to fully participate in our offseason program. I feel like we didn't have a full body of work to make an evaluation."
 
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you just wait....Bama has paid a bunch of money for something but I bet it won't be quite what they expect.
 
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Throughout the Tides walk through the desert of inferiority, everyone has said that what that team needs is a coach who will stand up and tell everyone..."my way or highway"... Well his name is Saban, and now is no time for those kids to cry about what just walked through the door with a whistle around his neck...
 
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"To be honest with you, it's the way [Saban] is treating kids," John Barnes told The Birmingham News in a story Thursday. "What Jim told Saban was he was not going to give up his dignity and be treated like that."
-- in a way that would affect their dignity."

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:cray:
 
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Throughout the Tides walk through the desert of inferiority, everyone has said that what that team needs is a coach who will stand up and tell everyone..."my way or highway"... Well his name is Saban, and now is no time for those kids to cry about what just walked through the door with a whistle around his neck...
:salute:
 
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Wow, with staggering numbers like that- I don't see how the Tide Nation is coping with this loss....
:birgits_giggle:
 
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Barnes would have never left the bench. He was a big kid with a strong arm but he ran a 5.3 40. Yes you read that right, a 5.3 40 yard dash. Just another example of Mike Shula's top notch recruiting ability. Nick ran him off to free up a scholarship and I see nothing wrong with that!
 
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Barnes would have never left the bench. He was a big kid with a strong arm but he ran a 5.3 40. Yes you read that right, a 5.3 40 yard dash. Just another example of Mike Shula's top notch recruiting ability. Nick ran him off to free up a scholarship and I see nothing wrong with that!

truth is, I dont either, I just couldnt, in good conscience, miss a chance to slam Bama
 
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Barnes would have never left the bench. He was a big kid with a strong arm but he ran a 5.3 40. Yes you read that right, a 5.3 40 yard dash. Just another example of Mike Shula's top notch recruiting ability. Nick ran him off to free up a scholarship and I see nothing wrong with that!
We kept Jim Bob, whats a matter, you guys need to get rid of all your want to be's?
 
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Throughout the Tides walk through the desert of inferiority, everyone has said that what that team needs is a coach who will stand up and tell everyone..."my way or highway"... Well his name is Saban, and now is no time for those kids to cry about what just walked through the door with a whistle around his neck...

I think they need that for the boosters, not the players.
 
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I know what's coming, if you don't agree don't reply, but I couldn't give a rat's ass what Saban does to his players. He seems to have a fairly good record of his teams performing on the field and hope we beat the crap out of his current team in this upcoming season. If he runs off all the players on his team I will be happy as a clam...
 
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I remember I read the same thing when he was at LSU. This is probably the excuse that kid came up with to quit. But either way, it doesn't matter, as long as Saban could win the trophy, and no one would say a word anymore, just as when he was at LSU.

On the other hand, Phil created home environment, but if he couldn't even win SEC east, he should retire.
 
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On the other hand, Phil created home environment, but if he couldn't even win SEC east, he should retire.
Yeah, get pissed coach and bring back the swagger. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, in a current other thread... It can be done, by the way.
 
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I remember I read the same thing when he was at LSU. This is probably the excuse that kid came up with to quit. But either way, it doesn't matter, as long as Saban could win the trophy, and no one would say a word anymore, just as when he was at LSU.

On the other hand, Phil created home environment, but if he couldn't even win SEC east, he should retire.


They better get used to it. It will only get worse. Worst of luck to them. :p
 

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