Nico, OU and the CFP- no free lunches

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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Bru is physical. Thornton is maybe the least physical guy we have seen here. Talented, but I would never call him physical. He seemingly catches a touchdown or gets hurt every time he touches the ball.
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Thornton was the most disappointing player on offense in my opinion. He had a great yd per catch average and showed he could get open on deep balls. He just couldn't stay on the field. Against OSU he caught one pass, was tackled and came up tapping his helmet. He didn't want anything to do with that frozen turf. He is too soft to make the NFL.
 
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Vol8188 said:
lol isn’t our schedule the same basically?

So everyone but us will get better?
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Pretty much my expectation. UGA will be UGA. Bama, OU, and UF are on the rise. We simply do not function on the road. Add our annual no show/stinker game and that's my fifth loss. The wrong injury or two(you know it's coming) or a transfer that we don't anticipate and all bets are off next season. Plus, Heupel's tenure at UCF, showed diminished results as Frosts players left the program. Due to covid years, I suspect that clock was extended for Heupel at UT, but I believe that changes starting next season.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Pretty much my expectation. UGA will be UGA. Bama, OU, and UF are on the rise. We simply do not function on the road. Add our annual no show/stinker game and that's my fifth loss. The wrong injury or two(you know it's coming) or a transfer that we don't anticipate and all bets are off next season. Plus, Heupel's tenure at UCF, showed diminished results as Frosts players left the program. Due to covid years, I suspect that clock was extended for Heupel at UT, but I believe that changes starting next season.
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So no one else will have bad loses or transfers (we’ve yet to have a transfer of serious significance this season)?

lol “I have one data point showing regression at a previous stop, therefore…science!”

You guys try to jump to these grand narratives way too fast.

Outside of RB, we should expect our offense to be better next season. Our defense should still be very good given everyone that’s returning.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Lmfao okay buddy….
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I agree with his take. The committee already had the Vols with a ceiling in the rankings like they didn't think we were as good as other 10-2 teams. We beat out other SEC teams because they finished 9-3 otherwise we're behind Ole Miss and Alabama.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I agree with his take. The committee already had the Vols with a ceiling in the rankings like they didn't think we were as good as other 10-2 teams. We beat out other SEC teams because they finished 9-3 otherwise we're behind Ole Miss and Alabama.
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You shouldn’t agree with that take, because it’s nonsense. If anything in the future they will include more SEC teams, not less. You’re overvaluing TN losing to a team that might win it all.

Going forward I think we see a tougher road for the 2nd ACC team and for a 4th big ten team, and in return you’ll get more SEC teams.
 
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Orangecrush#27 said:
Disagree. Use to first downs would stop the clock, and it would give the offense more time. Now with the clock running at all times you have less possessions and every one is very important. And with the style of offense we run, when we get 3 and outs we just used 2 mins of clock. And lost a possession. Turn it around and the other team sustains a drive they can absolutely bleed the clock even if they don’t run an offense that snaps the ball with 2 seconds remaining. The clock continually running puts more pressure on offenses. Especially with the style we play.
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The games are definitely shorter because of the running clock. If you can effectively run an up-tempo offense, you use less clock than going slow. The other team is going to run what they run. If they're going slow, you going slow only compounds the problem of having less time. Going fast leaves more time on the clock and maybe give you an extra possession or 2 you may not have normally had. Therefore, I'd spread the field to create more opportunities in space and if we get a positive play, I'm lining back up and pushing the tempo. It all comes down to the capabilities of the team though. Maybe Nico wasn't capable of pushing the tempo like Hendon yet. Therefore, we leaned on the defense and shortening games.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Numerous 10-2 teams made it this season. Why do you expect that to be different?

If anything , the selection committee will move in the opposite direction and include 9-3 sec teams in the future over an SMU. Rather than moving in the opposite direction and excluding 10-2 SEC teams
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Because we had several SEC teams with 3 losses like Bama, Ole Miss, SC. This year, any Big 10 and SEC team that was 10-2 got in. We could have several 11-1 teams next year or more 10-2 teams.

Tennessee will need a big win next year, because I can easily see the committee putting another 10-2 team over us because of our poor performance in Ohio last week. (Which almost happened this year. Had Ole Miss beat Florida and Alabama beat Vandy/OK we probably wouldn't have made the playoffs this year).
 
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Vol865 said:
Disagree. Slowing tempo gives you less possessions. It might also give the other team less possessions. Sometimes that's a good thing, but that's not what our offense is built upon. Tempo is a key facet.
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It did help us attain a lot of pre snap penalties at the best of times.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Numerous 10-2 teams made it this season. Why do you expect that to be different?

If anything , the selection committee will move in the opposite direction and include 9-3 sec teams in the future over an SMU. Rather than moving in the opposite direction and excluding 10-2 SEC teams
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The only argument to that is a 10-2 smu didn’t do any worse than the 10-2 sec team.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
We had Bru McCoy and Dante Thornton. And couldnt catch a cold.

Why dont we go get a bowling ball, like Velus Jones in the slot? Then a burner on the edge?

I know, we could get Cam Seldon back before its too late.
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Both were banged up.
 
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Orangecrush#27 said:
Disagree. Use to first downs would stop the clock, and it would give the offense more time. Now with the clock running at all times you have less possessions and every one is very important. And with the style of offense we run, when we get 3 and outs we just used 2 mins of clock. And lost a possession. Turn it around and the other team sustains a drive they can absolutely bleed the clock even if they don’t run an offense that snaps the ball with 2 seconds remaining. The clock continually running puts more pressure on offenses. Especially with the style we play.
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You disagree that slowing tempo gives you and your opponent fewer positions? You need to reexamine that .
 
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CAVPUT said:
Pretty much my expectation. UGA will be UGA. Bama, OU, and UF are on the rise. We simply do not function on the road. Add our annual no show/stinker game and that's my fifth loss. The wrong injury or two(you know it's coming) or a transfer that we don't anticipate and all bets are off next season. Plus, Heupel's tenure at UCF, showed diminished results as Frosts players left the program. Due to covid years, I suspect that clock was extended for Heupel at UT, but I believe that changes starting next season.
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A reasonable take. I hope you’re wrong, but I think people are gonna really start getting uneasy when they see how next year will most likely pan out. I still think the Vols could over perform—but I’m legit expecting 9-3 or 8-4 and wouldn’t be surprised if we were 7-5.
 
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