Nico's last play against Arkansas (no throw)

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Dr H Lecter said:
Just watching, I don’t believe the coaches have enough faith in what he can do, and how fast he reads defenses.i know he missed some reads. I think the coaches see the same thing in practice. Hence, run heavy play calling and very vanilla play calling. The OL didn’t do any favors either.
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Yep, a lot of ppl on here are wanting JH to let it fly but I think somewhere he has lost confidence in what we can get away with starting 2nd half of OU game and the Ds are playing his O different and its causing a bit of chaos. The only steadies are Dylan Sampson and Cooper Mays on O. I think the whole thing is the O-Line has underperformed and Nico is making some bad decisions and the strips where concerning and when a OT gets beat on the outside if the QB don't step up in the pocket he's siting duck..
 
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DieHardVOL said:
I'm no expert on the rule about offensive lineman down field, but it looked to me like both the RG & RT released down field when Nico was flushed out of pocket. I wonder if he had thrown it, it would have just been a penalty regardless.
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My take on Nico is that it didn’t matter. I think it’s time to stop saying he is elite’.Nico played scared. He was no better than Joe Milton. When will coach turn him loose to play the way he can. If there is another game like this one we will see a new QB starting. Word is the talk has already started inside Neyland about playing time at QB.
 
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That play shows a few things to me

He was playing scared and not thinking

He was not told by coaches to be sure to do this and not to do that etc.

Heupel should have taken a timeout and it was bad clock management / coaching and bad qb play


With all that said, let’s go play Florida and WTFA
 
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Tnslim1 said:
Not sure I'm correct on this but a game can't end on a penalty giving us another shot at a Hail Mary.
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The game can’t end on a defensive penalty, but it most certainly can on an offensive one. None of that matters, though, because you still have to throw it and hope that the refs look the other way or flat out miss it.
 
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BoscoVol said:
My take on Nico is that it didn’t matter. I think it’s time to stop saying he is elite’.Nico played scared. He was no better than Joe Milton. When will coach turn him loose to play the way he can. If there is another game like this one we will see a new QB starting. Word is the talk has already started inside Neyland about playing time at QB.
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Just love reading stuff like this before the Florida game. Why didn't Heupel go to the portal for a QB in the event that Nico wasn't yet ready?
 
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Nico explains it here:



Sounds like he didn't have a good handle on the ball and could not throw it. Should he have scrambled back, got a handle and thrown it? Yes. He made a mistake. I think he panicked, ran past LOS, realized he could not throw it, and tried to get out of bounds.

The snap was good from what he said, he just miss handled the ball.

Frankly, we should have never been in that spot in the first place. However, once you have the story, it is more understandable.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Nico explains it here:



Sounds like he didn't have a good handle on the ball and could not throw it. Should he have scrambled back, got a handle and thrown it? Yes. He made a mistake. I think he panicked, ran past LOS, realized he could not throw it, and tried to get out of bounds.

The snap was good from what he said, he just miss handled the ball.

Frankly, we should have never been in that spot in the first place. However, once you have the story, it is more understandable.
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Kick the $h!t out of Florida this week and all is forgiven!
 
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DaddyChad said:
Nico was going to get some criticism regardless of how the last play went down.

But isn’t it funny how that one play defines a QB? If he throws that ball and gets a TD the entire narrative on Nico changes.
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And there was a throw there to Nimrod that he could have made across the middle for a TD.
 
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VolBricks said:
the last play is not what cost us that game, it was the preceding 30 plays that were not TN quality plays that cost. Not to mention Arky drove down the field on our defense the series before and score to take the lead. Our defense needed to get a stop and could not.
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It really did feel like last year.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Nico explains it here:



Sounds like he didn't have a good handle on the ball and could not throw it. Should he have scrambled back, got a handle and thrown it? Yes. He made a mistake. I think he panicked, ran past LOS, realized he could not throw it, and tried to get out of bounds.

The snap was good from what he said, he just miss handled the ball.

Frankly, we should have never been in that spot in the first place. However, once you have the story, it is more understandable.
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The odds on scoring from the 20 are remote. The odds go up a good bit had we run a play to get the first down and call TO. Maybe we’re at the 10 then. Heupel used the last timeout though so then it should have been a throw into the end zone. The last play doesn’t bug me as much as the poor clock management. I don’t get why we never spike the ball or use timeouts well. We do a lot of things well as a program but clock management isn’t one of them.
 
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orangemadam said:
Just man up. His decision making, including mistakes of judgement on rpo's, etc. show
Nico is not up to speed as we thought. He is still a year from being a good qb.

Right now his numbers are worse that Milton's after 5 games. Coaching goofs aren't helping him.
JH needs to get that offensive mind going and quit this conservative b.s. You can only rely on
your running game to a certain extent. Let's start taking a few chances (i.e. stop punting when we
are in opponent's territory, stop running up middle every frigging 2nd down, etc)
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I hope they can learn from this loss and get better.
 
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You HAVE to throw the ball regardless there's no time left. It's only a penalty if the ref sees it but you're 100% guaranteed to fail if you don't throw it. His mistake was running too far forward past the line of scrimmage too late to throw the ball and yet he was still looking to throw he was not aware of the situation he was in. A failure due probably to inexperience.

He 100% should have hung back and tossed it into the endzone like Dobbs did against UGA in 2016. It probably would have failed but at least it was a chance to win.
 
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