NIL - Bryce Young

#51
#51
RDU VOL#14 said:
This is the epitome of NIL and I have zero issues with it . The only issue I’ll have is if he short changes people after games and tries to always charge for autographs.
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Probably just won't sign any MLB players are now like that
 
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bamawriter said:
Those were the days of ublimited schollies and roster sizes, and the potential of making a career of football isn't what it is now. These days, I don't think you could convince too many highly talented kids to come and have no chance to play.
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Saban has been doing that for years.
 
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bamawriter said:
Bull. After 14 years it's rather evident that Saban doesn't concern himself with seniority. The guys who earn playing time get playing time.
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What in the hell does seniority have to do with my comment? Saban has had how many number 1 recruiting classes in his tenure at Al? Year after year he's getting "highly talented kids" to commit and some have no chance to play. Stop being so defensive.

bamawriter said:
Those were the days of ublimited schollies and roster sizes, and the potential of making a career of football isn't what it is now. These days, I don't think you could convince too many highly talented kids to come and have no chance to play.
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hog88 said:
What in the hell does seniority have to do with my comment? Saban has had how many number 1 recruiting classes in his tenure at Al? Year after year he's getting "highly talented kids" to commit and some have no chance to play. Stop being so defensive.
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The point is that the highly talented kids come in and have a chance to play. Bama's got true freshmen beating out older guys for playing time year-after-year. That's the point I was making about seniority being irrelevant. It's a cute talking point every recruiting season about how Saban convinces guys to warm the bench for a couple of years, but the talking point doesn't reflect reality.
 
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bamawriter said:
The point is that the highly talented kids come in and have a chance to play. Bama's got true freshmen beating out older guys for playing time year-after-year. That's the point I was making about seniority being irrelevant. It's a cute talking point every recruiting season about how Saban convinces guys to warm the bench for a couple of years, but the talking point doesn't reflect reality.
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That's not what I was implying in the least, that is your defensiveness talking.

Saban like Bear gets highly talented kids to come in every year and compete for playing time, there isn't a difference between the 2 in that regard. If Saban could sign 150 players every year he would.
 
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hog88 said:
That's not what I was implying in the least, that is your defensiveness talking.

Saban like Bear gets highly talented kids to come in every year and compete for playing time, there isn't a difference between the 2 in that regard. If Saban could sign 150 players every year he would.
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There's a considerable difference in that Bryant could sock away as many kids as he wanted knowing that many of them would never play any meaningful snaps. At a certain point, there's only some many guys that can compete at one position. Bryant readily admitted that he'd sign guys simply to keep them from signing elsewhere. But this was in an era where playing pro football wasn't the kind of life changing opportunity that is now. You simply cannot compare this era of college athletics to the 1960s.

And, for what it's worth, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're being defensive. It's simply how discussion works.
 
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bamawriter said:
There's a considerable difference in that Bryant could sock away as many kids as he wanted knowing that many of them would never play any meaningful snaps. At a certain point, there's only some many guys that can compete at one position. Bryant readily admitted that he'd sign guys simply to keep them from signing elsewhere. But this was in an era where playing pro football wasn't the kind of life changing opportunity that is now. You simply cannot compare this era of college athletics to the 1960s.

And, for what it's worth, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're being defensive. It's simply how discussion works.
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I know that players in those days did not have professional aspirations to the same degree as players today, but presumably they still wanted to go to a place where they thought they were going to play. Especially if they were highly recruited. When they looked at Bear's rosters and saw 115 (or however many he would sign) scholarship guys, they had to have figured a bunch of those guys would never play, and a bunch of those guys were good players who would have started elsewhere.

I know it was a different era, but how exactly was Bryant able to convince that many guys to sign with him? Especially when, as you said, he readily admitted he signed players not because he thought they'd play a lot for him, but to keep them off another coach's roster. Did kids just not think like "F you coach, I'm not signing with you just to sit on the bench" in those days?
 
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TheDirector said:
Don't you think they will have to address this with additional rules. Otherwise all of Bama's or Georgia's or Miami's 4 and 5 star players could be offered a deal from a company in lieu of a scholarship and those teams would then just sign more players. This could get out of hand quickly. I'm not saying I'm opposed but I don't think this was thought through before just turning on the switch.
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The issue is they, NCAA and schools, thought they had more time and didnt think this thru. And the supreme court took it out of their hands. This has clearly been an issue for a while that the NCAA didnt want to budge on. It bit them in the butt.
 
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joevol33 said:
I can see this becoming a problem in the locker room. Big name players getting the money may think they're better than the team. Teammates getting jealous if they're not getting anything, and messing up the team chemistry. Not saying it will happen, but I can see it happening.
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They were getting money anyway...
 
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LouderVol said:
And?
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So teams like Kentucky, Mississippi State, etc. will far deeper behind. Only teams that have a big market will have a chance. I think it'll be very similar to the NBA team market where large market teams can basically attract/buy their players and have a smaller rebuild. Fortunately, UT has is a large market college team
 
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dcm3w said:
So teams like Kentucky, Mississippi State, etc. will far deeper behind. Only teams that have a big market will have a chance. I think it'll be very similar to the NBA team market where large market teams can basically attract/buy their players and have a smaller rebuild. Fortunately, UT has is a large market college team
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Yeah, an inbalance on the football field doesnt compare to an injustice off the field. You cant limit off the field opportunities just because of a game played on Saturday's between willing participants.

The NCAA had every chance to fix/head off/avoid this issue, but never addressed it. Now it's a mess because they didnt do their job.
 
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#70
Will these kids making millions continue to go to class ? Imagine the college football player makes 100 times more than the pauper professor
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I thought socialism was bad.[/QUOT
It would be socialist to put all the NIL money into a pool and divvy it up amongst all the youngsters, similar to how they do with the bowl money going to the conference member institutions. Since we're dealing with (mostly) gub'ment institutions, I'm surprised the "equal outcome, white-guilt laden" crowd hasn't already demanded it to be. Give them time.
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You rralize those are completely separate pools of money, right?

Donations go toward many things, but not paying players.

NiL goes directly from business to player.

I'd be way more upset at these new monster TV deals that are ruining cfb through concentration of power, while people are still being asked to donate. Those are the same pool.
 
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