NIL has already begun to get out of hand

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RDU VOL#14 said:
I think there needs to be a governing body of football and basketball to maintain the integrity of the game. Maybe a relevant/revised version of the NCAA. People have talked a long time about schools leaving the NCAA and forming their own governing body. I don’t know exactly what that would like, but it I think for the long term, betterment of the sport there needs to something that keeps everyone in check. Or at least pretends to.
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At this point, the NCAA will most likely have to split into a huge bunch of pieces, the conferences can split and impose rules but the wage suppression scheme still collapses as the players can go to the schools (states) and conferences in which they can make the most money.

What it does is collapse big money college sports, I'm sure the Ivy League is just laughing at this point.

betterment of the sport there needs to something that keeps everyone in check
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No other business operates like this, nor is allowed too for obvious reasons.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I think there needs to be a governing body of football and basketball to maintain the integrity of the game. Maybe a relevant/revised version of the NCAA. People have talked a long time about schools leaving the NCAA and forming their own governing body. I don’t know exactly what that would like, but it I think for the long term, betterment of the sport there needs to something that keeps everyone in check. Or at least pretends to.
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There are already governing bodies, the NFL and NBA. If the NFL and NBA stepped up and developed a true farm system 90% of the problems in college athletics would go away.
 
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Otis1105 said:
I mean, the headline is misleading. He’s offering $500 a month to each player to post about his gym. This isn’t a $50M/year deal. The total payout is $540k. This is a nothing burger to me.
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To me what is interesting, and I noted it yesterday. People don't even know what NIL rights are. Obviously, that is a contract for services, of course, nothing the NCAA can really do about it... realistically.

Pay for play is here.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
At this point, the NCAA will most likely have to split into a huge bunch of pieces, the conferences can split and impose rules but the wage suppression scheme still collapses as the players can go to the schools (states) and conferences in which they can make the most money.

What it does is collapse big money college sports, I'm sure the Ivy League is just laughing at this point.



No other business operates like this, nor is allowed too for obvious reasons.
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I was more or less referring to a salary cap.
 
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golfballs said:
The NCAA has had rules on amateurism for their entire existence. This isn’t just something they happened to impose in the last few decades.
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But the money being generated by everyone but the players has grown astronomically over the past 4 decades, which is the point that was being made.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
What it does is collapse big money college sports,
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No it doesn't. It just puts some of the "big money" into the wallets of those doing the work. The revenue generating ADs aren't simply going to close up shop over this.
 
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Regardless of your view on this, whether for or against players getting compensation, it's fraught with landmines and unintended consequences that will forever change college football. OP's example. Hard for a small school to match that kind of funding, so the good players will go to where the $$ is and little schools get the scraps.
I predict that someday, maybe a long way off, a player will choose his school via a draft process like the NFL.

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bamawriter said:
How is that any different from the status quo?
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What's the limit on the money? I see it as now, those rich Vandy type schools can buy their way towards competing with everyone else. Won't happen right away, but it'll no longer be about the facilities, tradition, school song and mascot.. it'll be pure $$$.
 
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ptcarter said:
What's the limit on the money? I see it as now, those rich Vandy type schools can buy their way towards competing with everyone else. Won't happen right away, but it'll no longer be about the facilities, it'll be pure $$$.
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I'm not sure I buy that. Part of why Vandy's facilities suck is because their donor base doesn't want to contribute to athletics. I don't see that changing just because they can put money directly into a player's pocket.
 
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ptcarter said:
What's the limit on the money?
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There are no limits on the amount of money. Compensation restriction rules enforced by the NCAA are more or less over, realistically. They seem hell bent on ignoring reality at the moment though.

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hog88 said:
There are already governing bodies, the NFL and NBA. If the NFL and NBA stepped up and developed a true farm system 90% of the problems in college athletics would go away.
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The NBA has a farm system now. And some out-of-HS kids are using it already.
 
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bamawriter said:
I'm not sure I buy that. Part of why Vandy's facilities suck is because their donor base doesn't want to contribute to athletics. I don't see that changing just because they can put money directly into a player's pocket.
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You are a player. Do you care if Vandy upgrades their facilities when they can give a greater percentage of NIL to a player than Bama can. What if they got a couple of hundred thousand more? Up to now (if you play by the "rules"), the facilities made a difference, because, hypothetically - that's WAS the sales pitch.
 
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ptcarter said:
You are a player. Do you care if Vandy upgrades their facilities when they can give a greater percentage of NIL to a player than Bama can. What if they got a couple of hundred thousand more? Up to now (if you play by the "rules"), the facilities made a difference, because, hypothetically - that's WAS the sales pitch.
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I just don't see a world wherein Vandy's boosters are willing to pay more than Bama's.
 
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volfanbill said:
That’s the point. They made it a cash cow and have profited for decades. Now the players finally get to reap rewards as well
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They didn’t make it a cash cow, fans did. People have spent increasingly more money on college sports, but the principle of amateurism hasn’t changed. If anything, the NCAA failed to strictly enforce it enough.
 
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bamawriter said:
But the money being generated by everyone but the players has grown astronomically over the past 4 decades, which is the point that was being made.
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The NCAA set up rules to govern college athletics and a cornerstone was that it be amateur competition. It’s not the NCAA’s fault that there havent been a viable alternative for kids to make money and play sports. If anyone has colluded to prevent those opportunities, it’s the professional leagues, since they benefit by allowing colleges to be their de facto farm system. But they enjoy anti-trust exemptions from Congress.
 
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