NIL vs Culture - Family Environment - Brotherhood

#26
#26
Every team talks about "Culture", "Family Environment" and "Brotherhood". I feel that's out the window when it comes to NIL. It seems like it could be a reason to go to a school out of HS for a few seasons or used as a catch phrase to attract talent to a school. Then Baron comes to mind and I just don't understand the reasoning, because Culture, Family Environment and Brotherhood are thrown out the window for NIL money. Harrison for OSU talked about beating Michigan and winning a conference title as reason to come back, then sits out of a bowl game. McCord leaves them high and dry also to go to Cuse. Wright and Small decide to go Pro, while sitting out, even the consummate teammate in Milton decides to sit out even though he's there to support. Darnell Wright was a high draft pick, but still played in the Orange Bowl, while Hyatt sat out. How is it Culture, Family Environment, and Brotherhood when you don't know anyone or have relationships with the guys you are joining for one year in the Portal?
It’s more a business now. Those other things are still going to be important but it’s just like a job. You have to be close on money for the other stuff to matter.
 
#27
#27
No one would take Adrian Petersen, Jamal Lewis, Todd Gurley, Reggie Bush?

This is where it becomes a long term investment for nfl teams.
Petersen and Clowney are kind of the exception to the rule type players. What he’s saying is right though most linemen and those type players just aren’t physically ready for NFL.
 
#28
#28
Brotherhood,loyalty,culture,state pride,legacy. None of these mean a damn thing now. The so called “transfer portal “ is just a free agent market for who will pay the most. It took a few years, but it hurt KY basketball with all the one and done’s, you can’t develop a TEAM like that. Soon the schools with the richest “collectives” will have the best players, recruiting really doesn’t matter anymore either. Soon we’ll just be pulling for a jersey and a helmet with a strangers head in it
 
#29
#29
Petersen and Clowney are kind of the exception to the rule type players. What he’s saying is right though most linemen and those type players just aren’t physically ready for NFL.

Yes, for the most part I agree and understand his point, but what I’m saying is it would be a long term investment for NFL teams, work them in slowly. There are sophomore college players that are ready to play in the nfl. Specifically at the skill positions.
 
#30
#30
Yes, for the most part I agree and understand his point, but what I’m saying is it would be a long term investment for NFL teams, work them in slowly. There are sophomore college players that are ready to play in the nfl. Specifically at the skill positions.
Possibly. I get what you’re saying. You’re looking at a few years of development still for the Trey Smith type players even then. How high a draft pick do you spend and could that player make more in nil and college level and be developed and evaluated vs similar talent?

Idk it’s an interesting discussion for sure.
 
#31
#31
I love my wife, am dedicated to my kids, I pay all my creditors, and demand the same from my household ... but 5 out of every 7 days of each week, I abandon them all, disappear, and mostly ignore them for 9-11 hours! I do that for the MONEY. Yet, people call me a family man.

I think maybe the commitment to each concept may not be as binary as the OP make this out to be. 🤷
 
#32
#32
If the kid doesn’t want an education he shouldn’t have to go to class to play sports in the first place. Also, if they are physically ready, let them play at the peak level. The NFL is the peak level. If you want to be a grown up and be paid to perform, do it, just don’t complain when something bad happens.

Charading this, as if the kid is still going to class and learning something is a joke. It’s pay for play and everybody knows it.
Name one HS player that is or would have been ready for the NFL right after graduating.
 
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#33
#33
What if the Rock and the UFL started letting HS seniors join the league after graduation instead of going to college. Start treating the UFL like a G League Basketball ilor a minor league for the NFL. That would make things very interesting for recruits.
 
#34
#34
What if the Rock and the UFL started letting HS seniors join the league after graduation instead of going to college. Start treating the UFL like a G League Basketball ilor a minor league for the NFL. That would make things very interesting for recruits.
College football would be very boring but it may even out the teams as far as talent goes.
 
#35
#35
I think the Family culture has more influence in retaining players than initially recruiting them. Alot of our guys that are transferring were nudged to do so due to playing time opportunity. We didn't have an initial flood of players exiting.
 
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#36
#36
Still have to make the best decision for yourself and your future. The players don’t take that as personal as fans.
It WILL become personal for the players when the fan's quit giving a sheet and the money dries up. My $$$ faucet as a fan is down to a trickle
 
#37
#37
It WILL become personal for the players when the fan's quit giving a sheet and the money dries up. My $$$ faucet as a fan is down to a trickle

Yeah that won’t happen. TV ratings are ballin.
 
#38
#38
Name one HS player that is or would have been ready for the NFL right after graduating.
There are only two I ever heard about from one of the Cowboy scouts back in the day: Earl Campbell and Herschel Walker could have played pro ball out of high school.
 

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