No Home Field Advantage for TN

[TBALLVOL]

How long has it been since TN whipped a top 10 team at Neyland. On TV at the Ole Miss game it appeared that the fans acted like parents in the park watching thier children play frisbee while they gossiped with thier neighbor. I don't believe TN has a real strong fan base. What we really have is a good reason to get together and socialize and party. The game is secondary IMO for the average fan and it shows on the field in the big games. We have no 12th man at UT. With 109,000 people we should have one of the loudest rough-and-roudy crowds in the nation. But instead we have alot of blue-hairs who just sit around comparing each others "big orange outfits" and complaining about anybody who stands up in front of them and cheers. Please , if you can't come and rabidly support the team then just stay home and have a party or stay in your RV. Take lessons from Fla and LSU!!!

 

[mikey]

Wow...this should start a GOOD fight. Well done.

 

[GAVol]

It's true though. Neyland is an intimidating place, but it could be almost unplayable for our opponents if the crowd stayed in the game.

Don't think it will be a problem next week though.

 

[JennVols]

I agree!!! Neyland Staduim is no where near as loud as it used to be. I remember going to the games when I was a kid and it was loud on just about every single play. Everyone seemed to actually watch and get into the game.....even if we were playing the Rutgers and beating them 40-0. LOL

This past weekend after the VOLS scored those 2 touchdowns, the crowd was way too quiet. The crowd should be in the game throughout the WHOLE game, not just when we score. That's just my opinion. :blush2:

 

[UTVolsFan28]

I agree 100%! I got ripped 3-4 times last week by "some older folks" as I jumped up to cheer. They just kept saying..."Son, act like you have some sense". I wanted to say Fu** Off but how can ya say that to some 60 year olds? Whats a guy to do? I WISH LIKE HELL that Tennessee fans would make Neyland what it should be.....A WILD and rough place to play! LET"S CRANK IT UP THIS SATURDAY!!!!! I have decided that fight or no fight...I am standing and screaming...for the WHOLE game...If people start to say sit down...Im going to start swinging....mayhbe its a bad idea...but I am going to try and get the fans to get loud with me....if you see a guy who looks like this walking out of Neyland.. :crazy: ..you will know..the crowd was NOT with me.



GO VOLS I want to see Shockley waving the :mf_surrender: by the end of the 3rd quarter! :yahoo:

 

[OrangeFrenzy]

Originally posted by JennVols@Oct 4, 2005 9:08 AM
and beating them 40-0.  LOL

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Wow... That MUST have been a long time ago...

 

[JennVols]

Originally posted by OrangeFrenzy@Oct 4, 2005 9:12 AM
Wow...  That MUST have been a long time ago...

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It was in the 80's. :biggrin2:

 

[cd12]

Originally posted by TBALLVOL@Oct 4, 2005 8:52 AM
How long has it been since TN whipped a top 10 team at Neyland. On TV at the Ole Miss game it appeared that the fans acted like parents in the park watching thier children play frisbee while they gossiped with thier neighbor. I don't believe TN has a real strong fan base. What we really have is a good reason to get together and socialize and party. The game is secondary IMO for the average fan and it shows on the field in the big games. We have no 12th man at UT. With 109,000 people we should have one of the loudest rough-and-roudy crowds in the nation. But instead we have alot of blue-hairs who just sit around comparing each others "big orange outfits" and complaining about anybody who stands up in front of them and cheers. Please , if you can't come and rabidly support the team then just stay home and have a party or stay in your RV. Take lessons from Fla and LSU!!!

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I have always seen it as a social event for most? I have often wondered if you put Maryville College in UT uniforms and the opponent Tusculom uniforms, how many "fans" in the stands could tell the difference?

 

[kiddiedoc]

A couple of points:

It IS a social event. If you don't think that football (pro, college) or any other big money sport is such, then you are unaware of what makes the world go 'round. Why do you think there are now "double" skyboxes? Have you been down to the Vol Navy? Have you "contributed" to get season tickets? NOT that this is an excuse for sluggish fans, but it's fact.

The old-fogies ARE too subdued. Nobody stands, except in the student section, and few people even scream. I'm at the front of the upper deck, on the side, in excellent seats with a killer view, and it's almost embarassing to get on your feet and yell.

The big games ARE, at times, VERY loud. Florida last year was a prime example. Toward the end of that game was the loudest I ever remember Neyland sounding. It was awesome. 2 more points: ONE -- it was a night game. TWO -- we pulled out a huge win. Think about those, especially if you are the Athletic Director.

You guys are right on with a lot of what's being said. I think we could help out by trying to get games a little later to give everyone time to get fired up and by banning Walkmans from the game.

My :twocents:

 

[VolBeef88]

I think it all depends on the time of game at any stadium. I have been to most in the SEC. UF, LSU, Bammer, UGA, Hogs, MSU, Ole Miss, South Carolina and of course to Vandy. The day games at most places are quieter. Neyland at night, under the lights is a much different place. The loudest place I have ever been was at Neyland in 1998 for the Florida game. For some reason people are more rowdy for night games than they are for day games. Espsecially for the JP early games. I could never guess why folks are louder at night?

 

[cd12]

Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Oct 4, 2005 9:35 AM
A couple of points:

It IS a social event.  If you don't think that football (pro, college) or any other big money sport is such, then you are unaware of what makes the world go 'round.  Why do you think there are now "double" skyboxes?  Have you been down to the Vol Navy?  Have you "contributed" to get season tickets?  NOT that this is an excuse for sluggish fans, but it's fact.

The old-fogies ARE too subdued.  Nobody stands, except in the student section, and few people even scream.  I'm at the front of the upper deck, on the side, in excellent seats with a killer view, and it's almost embarassing to get on your feet and yell.

The big games ARE, at times, VERY loud.  Florida last year was a prime example.  Toward the end of that game was the loudest I ever remember Neyland sounding.  It was awesome.  2 more points:  ONE -- it was a night game.  TWO -- we pulled out a huge win.  Think about those, especially if you are the Athletic Director.

You guys are right on with a lot of what's being said.  I think we could help out by trying to get games a little later to give everyone time to get fired up and by banning Walkmans from the game.

My :twocents:

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My point is I think most are more concerned with whats going on before and after the game than they are with the game itself!

 

[cd12]

Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Oct 4, 2005 9:35 AM
A couple of points:

It IS a social event.  If you don't think that football (pro, college) or any other big money sport is such, then you are unaware of what makes the world go 'round.  Why do you think there are now "double" skyboxes?  Have you been down to the Vol Navy?  Have you "contributed" to get season tickets?  NOT that this is an excuse for sluggish fans, but it's fact.

The old-fogies ARE too subdued.  Nobody stands, except in the student section, and few people even scream.  I'm at the front of the upper deck, on the side, in excellent seats with a killer view, and it's almost embarassing to get on your feet and yell.

The big games ARE, at times, VERY loud.  Florida last year was a prime example.  Toward the end of that game was the loudest I ever remember Neyland sounding.  It was awesome.  2 more points:  ONE -- it was a night game.  TWO -- we pulled out a huge win.  Think about those, especially if you are the Athletic Director.

You guys are right on with a lot of what's being said.  I think we could help out by trying to get games a little later to give everyone time to get fired up and by banning Walkmans from the game.

My :twocents:

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As far as the contribution goes, I haven't reached that social status! Money talks, but all mine says is bye!

 

[JennVols]

I have also noticed that since they put the Jumbo-Tron in, a lot of the crowd focuses more on it than the game and making noise.

I wanted to add that the students are usually ALWAYS into the game. They are the ones that wake up the rest of the crowd. :clapping:

 

[Jasongivm6]

Neyland can be VERY loud. Florida 98 was loud every play. The loudest I ever heard it was against Florida in 92, and against Bama in 96.

But it's been loud every single time we play a big rivalry.

 

[Volunteers]

When we go up 14-0 in the first 10 minutes vs Ole Piss, i can understand it turning into a social gathering.

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[VolBeef88]

Originally posted by Volunteers@Oct 4, 2005 9:21 AM
When we go up 14-0 in the first 10 minutes vs Ole Piss, i can understand it turning into a social gathering.

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Plus being so early didn't help. I think the time of the game has more to do with it than just about anything else. :twocents:

 

[VolNGA]

Went to my first game this year. My wife and I were completely shocked at the "tame" crowd in the section that we were in (Section PP). People SAT for the entire game and only stood up between quarters or for the band.

When I was in school and every time I have been since then, I stood up and yelled the whole game and usually couldn't talk the the next day. We both stood up and yelled, but all we got were dirty looks from the fans around us... so, needless to say, this drained away some of our enthusiasm. If I can't get tickets near the student section, I probably won't be going back for a while... Hell, we get louder at the house with friends over than Neyland was on Saturday.

I have an idea on helping get the crowd into it... put a DECIBEL meter on the field and have it show the current, average, high/low for game, and ALL TIME HIGH decibels in the stadium. The readout could be placed throughout the stadium. Thoughts?

 

[mikey]

Well this sucks...everybody agrees...I thought this would get ugly. :bad:

 

[OldVol]

Now listen, if you're sitting in front of a fan who has mobility problems, don't get mad if they ask you to sit down so they can see.

If they're sitting because they're lazy, then that's a different story.

You can be just as loud sitting as you can standing though.

One thing that we don't see at Neyland are a whole bunch of games that stay close and go right down to the wire.

Last year at the Florida game I don't think you'd say the place wasn't rocking in the final few minutes. It was raucous. It got loud during the Bama game too. But it was a close game to the end. The Notre Dame game was loud, but it wasn't too loud when Auburn was up by 2 touchdowns.

Neyland is ok and will be fine. It's the quality of the product on the field and the level of competition that brings out the crowd in every stadium.

How quiet was it in the Tiger Den last Monday when Gerald slammed in from the 1?

Yeah, I thought so.

 

[VolBeef88]

Originally posted by OldVol@Oct 4, 2005 10:24 AM
Now listen, if you're sitting in front of a fan who has mobility problems, don't get mad if they ask you to sit down so they can see.

If they're sitting because they're lazy, then that's a different story.

You can be just as loud sitting as you can standing though.

One thing that we don't see at Neyland are a whole bunch of games that stay close and go right down to the wire.

Last year at the Florida game I don't think you'd say the place wasn't rocking in the final few minutes. It was raucous. It got loud during the Bama game too. But it was a close game to the end. The Notre Dame game was loud, but it wasn't too loud when Auburn was up by 2 touchdowns.

Neyland is ok and will be fine. It's the quality of the product on the field and the level of competition that brings out the crowd in every stadium.

How quiet was it in the Tiger Den last Monday when Gerald slammed in from the 1?

Yeah, I thought so.

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I was there and it was VERY quiet, even for most of the 4th qtr.

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by VolBeef88@Oct 4, 2005 10:41 AM
I was there and it was VERY quiet, even for most of the 4th qtr.

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It doesn't matter who you are or where you're playing, there has to be some intensity to bring the crowd into it.

We've been fortunate to have many of our home games either not be in question, or on very rare occasions, we got out of it early and that takes the crowd out. But there's never been any stadium louder than the last few minutes of last year's FL game.

Personally, I hope it's as quiet as a church congregation at the end of a 2 hour sermon because the Dawgs are behind by 17 at the half.

I don't see anything wrong with eating a hot dog when the teams up by 2 TDs. I remember a game many years ago when my wife took some food out of my hand during a tight game. I thought she was hungry. She said I was smearing it on the head of the guy in front of me. I apologized. The funny thing was, he said he wasn't aware I was doing it. He was a little lost in the moment too. She has taken a lot of things out of my hands through the years. Fortunately I've never been violent with the binoculars. :biggrin2:

 

[OWB]

I have been saying this for a long time now, Neyland just isn't a tough place to play anymore.

If we get up by 2 TD's everyone gets quiet. If we are down by 2 TD's everyone gets quiet. When the game is close or when the defense BEGS for help, it's a little louder.

The stadium needs something to get and keep the crowd in the game.

A good start would be not to have another noon kickoff. Everyone is hot and miserable, didn't get to tailgate enough etc etc.....

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 4, 2005 11:11 AM
I have been saying this for a long time now, Neyland just isn't a tough place to play anymore. 

If we get up by 2 TD's everyone gets quiet.  If we are down by 2 TD's everyone gets quiet.  When the game is close or when the defense BEGS for help, it's a little louder.

The stadium needs something to get and keep the crowd in the game.

A good start would be not to have another noon kickoff.  Everyone is hot and miserable, didn't get to tailgate enough etc etc.....

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Don't you think that's the same everywhere?

From my experience most all fan bases behave the same under similar circumstances.

 

[9296potsguy]

Originally posted by VolBeef88@Oct 4, 2005 8:43 AM
For some reason people are more rowdy for night games than they are for day games. Espsecially for the JP early games. I could never guess why folks are louder at night? 

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Because it's night-night time for the old folks and they let their grandkids have their tickets. :snoring:

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by OldVol@Oct 4, 2005 12:18 PM
Don't you think that's the same everywhere?

From my experience most all fan bases behave the same under similar circumstances.

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When we played LSU, it wasn't like that. The Swamp wasn't all that quiet. I have been to a few Hokie games and those fans are crazy the WHOLE game.

Yes I think some places if not most are like that, but Neyland shouldn't be. 108,000 people should be loud. Everytime we were loud in the UAB game, they would get called for a false start.

Something will have to change for this UGA game. I hope that people realize that the team is going to need our help.