No more illegal TACOS

[skasper06]

For the record, I love Arian and the only problem I have with him is he played a running back from Florida State in the movie Draft Day. But that's on the screen-writer, not him.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That money is distributed back amongst the NCAA schools. Go find how many athletic departments are self-sustaining. When you look, you will find out that all but about one fourth (depending the given year) or less of all FBS football playing athletic departments operate in the red requiring academics to pick up the slack. Zero non-FBS football playing athletic departments turn a profit... zero.

So what is your BIG picture plan?

Pay only football players? They do not all make a profit and have fun with Title IX legislation.

Pay only programs that turn a profit? Should make 300+ schools upset across the board and again have fun with Title IX legislation.

Want to say piss on Title IX? Have fun losing federal money for the school.

Athletes receive access to state of the art equipment, sport specific training, free food with 3 meals or more a day, access to tutors, academic support that holds their hand like a 4 year old through the whole process, free tuition that could be worth 25K or so a year, medical care for injuries, one on one coaching in their desired sport, personalized nutrition plans, free supplements, advanced networking opportunities not available to other students, and free on-campus housing. However, that is not enough. Damn the facts of athletic department revenue and potential Title IX issues that could wreck all of college athletics as we know it -- we need to pay the millennial generation a wage as well.

Exactly. Say goodbye to thousands of other athletic scholarships. And those that will get paid better damn well perform.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Arian Foster is right about some things, and I too hate to see him bashed by Vol fans.

Is the concept of player "unionization" over the top? Yes, it would signal the end of college football as we know it.

But at the very least, college athletes, especially football players who generate millions and millions of dollars for their universities, need to have their full college costs covered (as well as reasonable expenses incurred as a direct result of their participation), especially since more than a few of them sacrifice their very bodies in the process. Anything less is simply not fair.

"Sacrifice" intimates a selfless act. I think playing D1 football is hardly a "sacrifice", especially for guys like Foster and others that have the talent to go to the next level. And then again, if they take advantage of the scholarship offered to them, that many could not afford otherwise, the "sacrifice" of injury while bad, would not be insurmountable to achieving a better life than that of a high school dropout they might otherwise have been. No.. the entitlement generation is driving this.. nothing more.

 

[smokey0625]

Not sure if it is hate or jealousy that is flowing through this thread.

Shut up Arian.

 

[GrowVol]

Arian Foster is right about some things, and I too hate to see him bashed by Vol fans.

Is the concept of player "unionization" over the top? Yes, it would signal the end of college football as we know it.

But at the very least, college athletes, especially football players who generate millions and millions of dollars for their universities, need to have their full college costs covered (as well as reasonable expenses incurred as a direct result of their participation), especially since more than a few of them sacrifice their very bodies in the process. Anything less is simply not fair.

The whole "suffering Arian Foster/football Player" is BS.
Yes, Universities make millions and students don't. Guess what? that's Life. The company I work for makes a 1000+ more than me and I do all the work. That's life. At most...in addition to all the perks that most college kids don't get....players should be insured for injuries had while playing or participating. Money/paying them?....they are already paid many different ways....not to mention Booster stuff/cars/tatts. And Fu#k Foster...

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Arian Foster is right about some things, and I too hate to see him bashed by Vol fans.

Is the concept of player "unionization" over the top? Yes, it would signal the end of college football as we know it.

But at the very least, college athletes, especially football players who generate millions and millions of dollars for their universities, need to have their full college costs covered (as well as reasonable expenses incurred as a direct result of their participation), especially since more than a few of them sacrifice their very bodies in the process. Anything less is simply not fair.

Was Foster on scholarship when he was at UT? If he was then his whole college costs were covered. He could have applied and more than likely gotten Federal Pell grants. He also could have taken out student loans and probably gotten some other grants based on his families financial needs. Stop it. College athletes get plenty.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Amusing how so many UT fans who lap up coaching platitudes about being "Vol For Life" are oh so eager to throw our school's all-time leading rusher under the bus because he has the AUDACITY to question the legal and moral sanctity of the NCAA's amateurism rules.

Foster and his classmates generated millions for our university during his time here, and, yes, they were grossly undercompensated for that labor.

You don't even know who our all time leading rusher is. Your post is completely invalid.

 

[schwompal]

The University gets huge grants based on grades, accomplishments, and research done by students in science, math, agriculture, and other fields. Why should the schools be rewarded with all of this money while the students who make this happen are not compensated?:matrix:

On the flip side, if a student is being paid a small amount as a work study or assistant, the players could be paid a small amount for their work in their field. Just a thought.

But, if you start paying athletes, you will eventually kill the goose that is laying the golden egg. Very few athletic departments can pay their own way as it is. If you start paying football players, you will be paying women's softball and soccer players the same amount.

You overestimate the grant money received by UT. The grants the university does get are primarily for faculty research, not student activities.

To your point about paying athletes a small amount of money for their on-field work. They are paid through meal plans, scholarships, and housing. Graduate students with assistantships receive a stipend and tuition waivers but not free room and board, fee waivers, or money for text books. The fact of the matter is that athletes on full scholarship have the most generous compensation packages for students on campus.