Nope, no racists in the TP

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I don't get the whole fascination with finding racism in the TP. Everybody gets that racism is out there coming from all angles. To me it's just another diversion from the arena of ideas.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't get the whole fascination with finding racism in the TP.
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Pretty outrageous, that's for sure.

But I think the point is that just because there are racists in the TP, doesn't mean the movement itself is racist.

Like just because there are Democrats that hate white people doesn't mean the party is racist.
 
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Guess someone here has forgotten about Obamas former minister and his preachings of hate.
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lawgator1 said:
Tea Party Federation kicks out Williams over blog post - CNN.com

At least its not like he was a prominent radio show host, or anything.

(P.S. Love the fact that it was a black leader in the TP who announced Williams is booted. That'll piss off TPers from Tennessee to Texas).
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Oh, clearly racist for kicking the guy out....... yeah.....

Maybe this has been answered, but I don't know. Why have you been living on Tennessee message boards for the past 5 years? Do you not feel comfortable on Gator sites?
 
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I think it is pretty obvious that there is a lot of real concern out there, even within the more level-headed leaders and managers of the TP, that they have a pretty big image problem on this issue right now.

And for good reason. Unfortunately, many of the people who have shown up at these things love to antagonize by tweaking racist messages and parading around with signs that are designed purely to aggravate people about race.

I think they figure that the TP meet-ups are going to a) have people generally sympathetic to their shared position on hating Obama; b) will have like-minded people at them who will join in their racist message and give them legitimacy; and c) allow them to tap into the racism of those who surely feel it and hate Obama and the Dems for it, but who won 't publicly tout it.

The leadership have a tough line to walk here because they don't want that to be their public face, but on the other hand there is an undercurrent of solidarity there that is powerful for their main goal, which is unseating Obama and Democrats (and a very few choice Republicans).
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that there is a lot of real concern out there, even within the more level-headed leaders and managers of the TP, that they have a pretty big image problem on this issue right now.

And for good reason. Unfortunately, many of the people who have shown up at these things love to antagonize by tweaking racist messages and parading around with signs that are designed purely to aggravate people about race.

I think they figure that the TP meet-ups are going to a) have people generally sympathetic to their shared position on hating Obama; b) will have like-minded people at them who will join in their racist message and give them legitimacy; and c) allow them to tap into the racism of those who surely feel it and hate Obama and the Dems for it, but who won 't publicly tout it.

The leadership have a tough line to walk here because they don't want that to be their public face, but on the other hand there is an undercurrent of solidarity there that is powerful for their main goal, which is unseating Obama and Democrats (and a very few choice Republicans).
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There is no REAL image problem. Just your fellow wacko libs blowing things WAY out of control. As several people have posted on here, Obama himself has associated himself with far more racial and hateful people is entire life. His image in this sense is just swept under the rug by nearly every media outlet. Also, you should try looking at the racist folks in your own party.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't get the whole fascination with finding racism in the TP. Everybody gets that racism is out there coming from all angles. To me it's just another diversion from the arena of ideas.
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Political smear campaign designed by Dems. Unfortunately it has worked so far, but those of us who don't only watch MSNBC know it is unfounded. Complete BS.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't get the whole fascination with finding racism in the TP. Everybody gets that racism is out there coming from all angles. To me it's just another diversion from the arena of ideas.
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That's right. Whenever the left feels threatened and has no real answers they throw the race card: Newsflash.....................The race card no longer works. When you throw the race card out it shows me and other thinking people that you are not intelligent enough to truly argue your points, or the point/stance you are trumpeting has no sound basis or truth for the majority of people.

In short, the race card means that you are grasping at straws.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that there is a lot of real concern out there, even within the more level-headed leaders and managers of the TP, that they have a pretty big image problem on this issue right now.

And for good reason. Unfortunately, many of the people who have shown up at these things love to antagonize by tweaking racist messages and parading around with signs that are designed purely to aggravate people about race.

I think they figure that the TP meet-ups are going to a) have people generally sympathetic to their shared position on hating Obama; b) will have like-minded people at them who will join in their racist message and give them legitimacy; and c) allow them to tap into the racism of those who surely feel it and hate Obama and the Dems for it, but who won 't publicly tout it.

The leadership have a tough line to walk here because they don't want that to be their public face, but on the other hand there is an undercurrent of solidarity there that is powerful for their main goal, which is unseating Obama and Democrats (and a very few choice Republicans).
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Whats obvious is.
Anyone that stands against Obama is racist. No different than the AZ immigration law. Instead of finding something that was "unlawful" about the law (which there isn't) they throw out the race card to cover their intentions. Which in that case, is against the will of the majority and not popular.

The TP's objective is not to unseat Obama because he is black. It's to unseat him because he unfit to lead our country. Simple as that. His color does not make him a bad president. His ability does.
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
Guess someone here has forgotten about Obamas former minister and his preachings of hate.
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Didn't LG tell you that only whites can be racist?

Seriously though, LG has the worst case of white mans guilt I've ever seen, sniffing up every tree and around every bush to find an excuse to cry racism. It's sickening.
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lawgator1 said:
Tea Party Federation kicks out Williams over blog post - CNN.com

At least its not like he was a prominent radio show host, or anything.

(P.S. Love the fact that it was a black leader in the TP who announced Williams is booted. That'll piss off TPers from Tennessee to Texas).
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"You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
-Senator Joe Biden


Mahatma Gandhi "ran a gas station down in Saint Louis."
-Senator Hillary Clinton


"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
-U.S. Senator Robert Byrd

"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
- Lyndon B. Johnson

"Hymies.' 'Hymietown."
- Jesse Jackson's description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.



Oh sorry, I forgot only Republican Tea Partiers are racists. Continue to live with the blinders on LG....
 
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BeecherVol said:
Whats obvious is.
Anyone that stands against Obama is racist. No different than the AZ immigration law. Instead of finding something that was "unlawful" about the law (which there isn't) they throw out the race card to cover their intentions. Which in that case, is against the will of the majority and not popular.

The TP's objective is not to unseat Obama because he is black. It's to unseat him because he unfit to lead our country. Simple as that. His color does not make him a bad president. His ability does.
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First, for a certain very small segment of the TP, it is EXACTLY that. I'd estimate more than 5 %, but less than 10.

Second, for a much larger segment, its in their top 10 reasons for wanting him out of office. I'd estimate more than 10 %, but less than 25.

Third, for the majority of TPers, his race is something with which they are not comfortable. They wouldn't necessarily vote against him just because of it, but the odds that they would ever vote for a black man for president is very small. I'd estimate this group at 70 %- plus of the TP.

And, yes, I realize that this latter group would encompass a lot of you.

So be it, it's the truth.
 
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Just can't do one of these without an opinion from Joe Six's best friend.
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lawgator1 said:
First, for a certain very small segment of the TP, it is EXACTLY that. I'd estimate more than 5 %, but less than 10.

Second, for a much larger segment, its in their top 10 reasons for wanting him out of office. I'd estimate more than 10 %, but less than 25.

Third, for the majority of TPers, his race is something with which they are not comfortable. They wouldn't necessarily vote against him just because of it, but the odds that they would ever vote for a black man for president is very small. I'd estimate this group at 70 %- plus of the TP.

And, yes, I realize that this latter group would encompass a lot of you.

So be it, it's the truth.
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While your pulling numbers out of your arse, try estimating these..............

*Hip Hop Republican*: Top Racist Democrat Quotes
 
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lawgator1 said:
Third, for the majority of TPers, his race is something with which they are not comfortable. They wouldn't necessarily vote against him just because of it, but the odds that they would ever vote for a black man for president is very small. I'd estimate this group at 70 %- plus of the TP.

And, yes, I realize that this latter group would encompass a lot of you.

So be it, it's the truth.
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In a time of double digit unemployment, deep recession, 2 wars, bailouts, skyrocketing debt and the government taking over sectors of the economy, you really think people people have time for racism? It wouldn't matter who was in office or what color they were. Face it, the problem 95% have with him isn't that he doesn't look like them . . . It's that he looks like Jimmy Carter.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Just can't do one of these without an opinion from Joe Six's best friend.
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Can we agree that those 3 camps exist, and in larger numbers in the TP than a random selection of the citizenry?
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lawgator1 said:
Can we agree that those 3 camps exist, and in larger numbers in the TP than a random selection of the citizenry?
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No. The idea that the dems using racism as their weapon are any less problematic makes no sense to me. Racists on both sides and in all walks. Pretendig they've hijacked the movement or are more prevalent therein is homerism.
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lawgator1 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that there is a lot of real concern out there, even within the more level-headed leaders and managers of the TP, that they have a pretty big image problem on this issue right now.

And for good reason. Unfortunately, many of the people who have shown up at these things love to antagonize by tweaking racist messages and parading around with signs that are designed purely to aggravate people about race.

I think they figure that the TP meet-ups are going to a) have people generally sympathetic to their shared position on hating Obama; b) will have like-minded people at them who will join in their racist message and give them legitimacy; and c) allow them to tap into the racism of those who surely feel it and hate Obama and the Dems for it, but who won 't publicly tout it.

The leadership have a tough line to walk here because they don't want that to be their public face, but on the other hand there is an undercurrent of solidarity there that is powerful for their main goal, which is unseating Obama and Democrats (and a very few choice Republicans).
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Don't you ever get tired of posting the same old shiz??? Seems to me that someone possibly has an infatuation with the TP.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Can we agree that those 3 camps exist, and in larger numbers in the TP than a random selection of the citizenry?
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Why do you obsess over painting the TP as racist? Is it because you have no logical way to debate their politics?
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BigPapaVol said:
No. The idea that the dems using racism as their weapon are any less problematic makes no sense to me. Racists on both sides and in all walks. Pretendig they've hijacked the movement or are more prevalent therein is homerism.
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It's like Ronald McDonald rationalizing that the reason doctors hate him is because he wears too much makeup.
 
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lawgator1 said:
First, for a certain very small segment of the TP, it is EXACTLY that. I'd estimate more than 5 %, but less than 10.

Second, for a much larger segment, its in their top 10 reasons for wanting him out of office. I'd estimate more than 10 %, but less than 25.

Third, for the majority of TPers, his race is something with which they are not comfortable. They wouldn't necessarily vote against him just because of it, but the odds that they would ever vote for a black man for president is very small. I'd estimate this group at 70 %- plus of the TP.

And, yes, I realize that this latter group would encompass a lot of you.

So be it, it's the truth.
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I'd estimate 85% of democrats couldn't pass an economics 101 class. I don't have proof of this, however you can't disprove it either.

For more of mine and LG's statistics - you can visit us at: www.bull****statistics.com
 
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