Nope, no racists in the TP

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It is disheartening that so many are willing to defend so few, no matter how much shame the few bring to the many.
 
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Racism is the left's way of ignoring the shortcomings the current administration has.
 
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GAVol said:
In a time of double digit unemployment, deep recession, 2 wars, bailouts, skyrocketing debt and the government taking over sectors of the economy, you really think people people have time for racism? It wouldn't matter who was in office or what color they were. Face it, the problem 95% have with him isn't that he doesn't look like them . . . It's that he looks like Jimmy Carter.
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He does.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It is disheartening that so many are willing to defend so few, no matter how much shame the few bring to the many.
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lawgator1 said:
It is disheartening that so many are willing to defend so few, no matter how much shame the few bring to the many.
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Who's defending anyone? I'm saying your Joe Sixey sense is busted. People have myriad reasons for wanting the empty suit apologist gone and race isn't one of them.
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BigPapaVol said:
Who's defending anyone? I'm saying your Joe Sixey sense is busted. People have myriad reasons for wanting the empty suit apologist gone and race isn't one of them.
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Your use of the word "apologist" in this context made me laugh so hard I peed a little.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Your use of the word "apologist" in this context made me laugh so hard I peed a little.
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Your pointing out the racist pink elephant again would have been funny too, if not overplayed more than the Three Stooges.
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BigPapaVol said:
Your pointing out the racist pink elephant again would have been funny too, if not overplayed more than the Three Stooges.
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Denying that it is a prevalent sentiment within the TP and then calling it the pink elephant in the room seems odd to me ....
 
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#39
Following are the results of a poll by the Georgia Newspaper Partnership which was in today's paper...

Do you approve or disapprove of Barack Obama's job performance as President?
Statewide: Disapprover = 52%, Approve = 37%, Not Sure = 11%
Likely White Voters: Disapprove = 70%, Approve = 18%, Not Sure = 12%
Likely Black Voters: Disapprove = 8%, Approve = 83%, Not Sure = 9%

Unfortunately racism still exists in the world... but I wonder based on the above results where the prevalent sentiment for racism exists the most.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Denying that it is a prevalent sentiment within the TP and then calling it the pink elephant in the room seems odd to me ....
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So. I found your percentages absurd, regardless what Joe S. Might have said. Acting as if one group or party has some monopoly on racism is senseless.
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Following are the results of a poll by the Georgia Newspaper Partnership which was in today's paper...

Do you approve or disapprove of Barack Obama's job performance as President?
Statewide: Disapprover = 52%, Approve = 37%, Not Sure = 11%
Likely White Voters: Disapprove = 70%, Approve = 18%, Not Sure = 12%
Likely Black Voters: Disapprove = 8%, Approve = 83%, Not Sure = 9%

Unfortunately racism still exists in the world... but I wonder based on the above results where the prevalent sentiment for racism exists the most.
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Absolutely, and it will continue unfortunately for the remainder of our time here. With that said, the perpetual and unwavering use of the the race card will only bring more tension to the forefront. The solution isn't using racism as an advantage to your cause, but to rather ignore and dismiss any racists elements out there. If there is any lesson that we have to learn, it is that racism does exist, and it has throughout history existed, through party lines, and across racial boundaries. The problem today, when not winning an argument, people for political purposes are choosing to label people as racist to dismiss them. They can't defeat them any other way. People who stand for that sort of childlike name calling, are the very people to blame for creating the racial tension that they so hate.

Are there racists in the Tea Party™? Yes. Are there racists in the Democrat Party? Yes. Are there racists in the Republican Party? Yes.

They're also a very small minority, and don't and will never have enough power in the U.S. to effect anything. The day people are tentative about throwing out the race card; is the day when racial tensions dramatically die down. JMO
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that there is a lot of real concern out there, even within the more level-headed leaders and managers of the TP, that they have a pretty big image problem on this issue right now.

And for good reason. Unfortunately, many of the people who have shown up at these things love to antagonize by tweaking racist messages and parading around with signs that are designed purely to aggravate people about race.

I think they figure that the TP meet-ups are going to a) have people generally sympathetic to their shared position on hating Obama; b) will have like-minded people at them who will join in their racist message and give them legitimacy; and c) allow them to tap into the racism of those who surely feel it and hate Obama and the Dems for it, but who won 't publicly tout it.

The leadership have a tough line to walk here because they don't want that to be their public face, but on the other hand there is an undercurrent of solidarity there that is powerful for their main goal, which is unseating Obama and Democrats (and a very few choice Republicans).
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what image problem do they have? the media from day one has called these people racist, made fun of their name and slandered them 24/7.

The media has called them racist and FOOLS like you gator believe it without caring to know the facts.

you don't want to know the facts, you are glad they are being labeled as racist so it help your leader's failed policy.

you are pathetic gator,
 
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lawgator1 said:
First, for a certain very small segment of the TP, it is EXACTLY that. I'd estimate more than 5 %, but less than 10.

Second, for a much larger segment, its in their top 10 reasons for wanting him out of office. I'd estimate more than 10 %, but less than 25.

Third, for the majority of TPers, his race is something with which they are not comfortable. They wouldn't necessarily vote against him just because of it, but the odds that they would ever vote for a black man for president is very small. I'd estimate this group at 70 %- plus of the TP.

And, yes, I realize that this latter group would encompass a lot of you.

So be it, it's the truth.
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The vast majority of Americans are past deep seeded racial prejudice, TPiers included. The movement simply isn't about race, it's about reckless, out of control government. I have no trouble what so ever with a president of different ethnicity than mine. My concerns about any president are his policies, not color. You have just painted an entire segment of America of outright racists or at the very least bigots. You are out of touch and lap up too much of the left's rhetoric.
 
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KB5252 said:
The vast majority of Americans are past deep seeded racial prejudice, TPiers included. The movement simply isn't about race, it's about reckless, out of control government. I have no trouble what so ever with a president of different ethnicity than mine. My concerns about any president are his policies, not color. You have just painted an entire segment of America of outright racists or at the very least bigots. You are out of touch and lap up too much of the left's rhetoric.
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you have to understand, people like lawgaytor have been exploiting racism in America for years. they know they can't defeat the tea party on merit, so they call them racist. their media hacks run with the story with now evidence, only accusation.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that there is a lot of real concern out there, even within the more level-headed leaders and managers of the TP, that they have a pretty big image problem on this issue right now.

And for good reason. Unfortunately, many of the people who have shown up at these things love to antagonize by tweaking racist messages and parading around with signs that are designed purely to aggravate people about race.

I think they figure that the TP meet-ups are going to a) have people generally sympathetic to their shared position on hating Obama; b) will have like-minded people at them who will join in their racist message and give them legitimacy; and c) allow them to tap into the racism of those who surely feel it and hate Obama and the Dems for it, but who won 't publicly tout it.

The leadership have a tough line to walk here because they don't want that to be their public face, but on the other hand there is an undercurrent of solidarity there that is powerful for their main goal, which is unseating Obama and Democrats (and a very few choice Republicans).
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the part in blue? wtf? where do u pull this crap from?

it's a good thing the new black panther party isn't as racist as those darn TP'ers
 
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KB5252 said:
The vast majority of Americans are past deep seeded racial prejudice, TPiers included. The movement simply isn't about race, it's about reckless, out of control government. I have no trouble what so ever with a president of different ethnicity than mine. My concerns about any president are his policies, not color. You have just painted an entire segment of America of outright racists or at the very least bigots. You are out of touch and lap up too much of the left's rhetoric.
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Do you not think that for some portion of the TP it is about race, or at least that race is a factor?

Not asking you to assign a ratio or percentage, but do you not think that it plays a role for some members of the TP in their views on Obama?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Do you not think that for some portion of the TP it is about race, or at least that race is a factor?

Not asking you to assign a ratio or percentage, but do you not think that it plays a role for some members of the TP in their views on Obama?
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i'd say its a small percentage, but you're trying to make it look like it's the majority.
 
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once you get labeled a racist the debate over anything real pretty much ends. You spend the rest of the time defending yourself as a non-racist and are forced to move away from discussing stuff that actually matters. The left is using this stupid tactic very well right now since it's pretty much all they have left
 
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lawgator1 said:
Do you not think that for some portion of the TP it is about race, or at least that race is a factor?

Not asking you to assign a ratio or percentage, but do you not think that it plays a role for some members of the TP in their views on Obama?
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Absolutely, racism is alive and exists in all manners and forms, from every racial group that ever existed. You are the one that assigned ratios and percentages to one demographic and I'm simply arguing that you are incorrect in your assessment. You are falsely attributing astronomical numbers to one group while trying to downplay or ignore comparable numbers in another.
 
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for the 1000th time. why does this matter? do you feel that if there is a racist contigent to the tea party that that somehow invalides their views? say it's really 10% of the tea party. that still means the other 90% are doing this because they believe in the core values. so therefore why does it matter?
 
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