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RDU VOL#14 said:
I see what you're saying, but I never thought Nate had a fair shot. He always seemed like the sacrificial lamb to me when things were going bad. I would like to have seen what he could've done with the first squad on a regular basis.
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If he had shown an ounce of aptitude in his opportunities, they would have advanced to "fair shot". They really wanted to redshirt Dobbs and drew that process out. If he had shown a spark in the Bama game, I believe they would have tried to ride with him. He got worse and worse. He wasn't doing anything at Tennessee...Pitt was a good move...now he's lost to the two decent teams Pitt's faced...imagine if they were Oklahoma and Bama. :ermm:
 
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If Duke loses to Miami then North Carolina will not have played a team that finishes the season ranked. It is comical that an ACC team can lose on a neutral field to South Carolina and then (quite possibly) run the tabole.
 
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I guess this likely means that the battle for the victory bell decides who goes to the ACC championship?
 
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TrueOrange said:
I guess this likely means that the battle for the victory bell decides who goes to the ACC championship?
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Yeah,I think Duke beats UNC and 10-2 UNC team probably drops to the Belk Bowl or Taxslayer Bowl. While an 11-2 Duke team after losing to Clemson in the ACCCG will go to the Orange Bowl(like GT last season)
 
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VolFootballnut said:
CBS projected UGA-UNC in the Taxslayer Bowl. Maybe with a few more UGA losses Tennessee can go there again.
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It's not a straight up, order of conference finish / conference W-L record selection anymore in the middle bowls anymore.

The system since the playoffs started is now that the SEC Front offices decide. Each bowl in that pool of 6 - Outback, Belk, Taxslayer, Music City, Liberty, Texas - gives the SEC offices a list of teams they're interested in inviting, and each of the middle of the SEC bowl-eligible schools give the SEC offices a list of the bowls they'd be interested in playing.


Then the SEC offices mix and match the combinations, putting emphasis on - as they put it - " address[ing] several issues that impact SEC fans, including the creation of intriguing matchups, the accommodation of travel for fans, reduced ticket obligations for our schools and a variety of assignments to help prevent repetitive postseason destinations,” (SEC commissioner Mike Slive).



So pretty much one of their main considerations is making sure that any of the teams repeatedly end up going to the same bowl game they did the year before.



Also worth note:

“We’ll certainly have discussions with the bowls on which teams they have interest in,” Womack said. “We’ll certainly have discussions with our institutions about which bowls they would have an interest in. But at the end of the day, the conference will make the decision as to how those teams would be placed in those six bowls.”

SEC Commissioner Mike Slive and his staff will make the decisions about which bowls those six teams will play in, Womack said. The league will work to avoid regular-season rematches and rematches from recent bowl games and factor in proximity when deciding who plays where.
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VolFootballnut said:
Yeah,I think Duke beats UNC and 10-2 UNC team probably drops to the Belk Bowl or Taxslayer Bowl. While an 11-2 Duke team after losing to Clemson in the ACCCG will go to the Orange Bowl(like GT last season)
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The Orange Bowl's one of the playoff semifinal bowl games this season. The only teams that are going to be playing in it this year are the ones in the playoffs.



Also, the Orange Bowl's contract changed once the playoffs started. It now that -when it's not a playoff game - it's supposed to take the ACC Champion, unless that team makes the playoffs (like FSU last year). If so, then the pick transfers over to the #2 team in the ACC, but it's done by ranking, not just ACC championship game loser. GT went last year because they were the next highest ranked (#12/#10/#9) ACC team behind FSU (the next team was Clemson was all the way down at #17/#18/#18).

Even if it were a non-playoff year for the Orange Bowl like last year, the polls unfortunately are advancing Duke kind of slowly. To be in that like GT was in a non-playoff year for the Orange Bowl, Duke would not only need FSU to lose another game, but they would need FSU (and any other ranked ACC teams) to fall enough behind in the rankings that when the polls inevitably dropped Duke further than they really should after that loss in the ACC Conference Championship game, the Blue Devils would still end up ranked ahead of the Seminoles, etc.




But again, the Orange Bowl's a playoff game bowl this year, so that doesn't really matter; only playoff teams will be invited there this year.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If Duke loses to Miami then North Carolina will not have played a team that finishes the season ranked. It is comical that an ACC team can lose on a neutral field to South Carolina and then (quite possibly) run the tabole.
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I'm not sure I'm sold on Miami being able to do that this year.
 
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TrueOrange said:
The Orange Bowl's one of the playoff semifinal bowl games this season. The only teams that are going to be playing in it this year are the ones in the playoffs.



Also, the Orange Bowl's contract changed once the playoffs started. It now that -when it's not a playoff game - it's supposed to take the ACC Champion, unless that team makes the playoffs (like FSU last year). If so, then the pick transfers over to the #2 team in the ACC, but it's done by ranking, not just ACC championship game loser. GT went last year because they were the next highest ranked (#12/#10/#9) ACC team behind FSU (the next team was Clemson was all the way down at #17/#18/#18).

Even if it were a non-playoff year for the Orange Bowl like last year, the polls unfortunately are advancing Duke kind of slowly. To be in that like GT was in a non-playoff year for the Orange Bowl, Duke would not only need FSU to lose another game, but they would need FSU (and any other ranked ACC teams) to fall enough behind in the rankings that when the polls inevitably dropped Duke further than they really should after that loss in the ACC Conference Championship game, the Blue Devils would still end up ranked ahead of the Seminoles, etc.




But again, the Orange Bowl's a playoff game bowl this year, so that doesn't really matter; only playoff teams will be invited there this year.
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So I guess Duke would get the Taxslayer Bowl in the Scenario while UNC got the Belk Bowl.
 
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VolFootballnut said:
So I guess Duke would get the Taxslayer Bowl in the Scenario while UNC got the Belk Bowl.
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This year you'd probably see:

Clemson in a playoff game (if still undefeated)

FSU probably getting a spot in one of the other New Year's 6 bowl games - either the Peach or Fiesta Bowl this year.

If Notre Dame finishes high enough that it gets a New Year's 6 bowl - at the moment it would - then it probably also takes one of those games (Peach or Fiesta). If it doesn't, then it gets a spot in one of the ACC bowls.


Then the Russell Athletics Bowl takes the next highest ACC team. So this would be where the higher ranked out of presumably UNC and Duke (or if it somehow gets back into the rankings by wining out, Pitt) would end up...unless Notre Dame fell out of New Years 6 bowl range, then they would probably invite Notre Dame.


Then it falls to a "Pool 1" of ACC bowls - the Music City/Taxslayer Bowl (which each switch off which one picks an ACC team and which one picks a Big 10 team each year), the Belk Bowl, Pinstripe Bowl, and Sun Bowl. "Pool 1" bowls in the ACC work that the 4 bowls have a drawing each year to determine the order they're selecting ACC teams. So as things are at the moment - presuming Pitt didn't climb back into the rankings next week - likely the lower ranked out of UNC and Duke would get selected by whichever bowl "won" the drawing (although 3 more ACC teams would also be on the table...right now it'd be Pitt, NCST, and maybe Louisville).

(And a worsening record by Notre Dame could make them fall into any ACC Bowl game, pushing the other ACC teams back:

If they fall to the Russell Athletics Bowl, then likely the "Pool 1" bowl that wins the drawing takes the higher ranked out of UNC/Duke while the loser fell to the the bowl of the four that drew the 2nd selection.

If Notre Dame fell further than that, than the Russell Athletics Bowl likely takes the higher ranked out of UNC and Duke, the "Pool 1" bowl that draws first selection takes Notre Dame, and the "Pool 1" bowl drawing second selection takes the lower ranked out to Duke and UNC.)
 
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VolFootballnut said:
I think Miami stumbles around to a 6-6 record and gets invited to play an AAC team in the St Petersburg Bowl
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They'd have to beat UVA and GT then, unless Duke just throws them a win they shouldn't have like they did with Virginia Tech last season.
 
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TrueOrange said:
They'd have to beat UVA and GT then, unless Duke just throws them a win they shouldn't have like they did with Virginia Tech last season.
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Yeah the Miami-GT game could be the Bowl Eligible game. I've seen Georgia Tech projected for the Sun Bowl against Arizona. I guess they think they'll go 6-6.
 
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