Noticed Kelly used other post players today and KK's minuets were reduced

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Thinking about it more, the girls may have been tired some from this past week. 3 games in 7 days plus all the hoopla with the conn game, probably contributed to their lack of rebounding today. Hope they get rest before they head to Nashville
 
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kayman1 said:
Thinking about it more, the girls may have been tired some from this past week. 3 games in 7 days plus all the hoopla with the conn game, probably contributed to their lack of rebounding today. Hope they get rest before they head to Nashville
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I do think legs was a big issue on the boards. They had fresh legs and we didn’t. Still gutted out a tough win. Shows some growth and resilience. Only way you get to the top of the SEC is by beating everyone on the way there.
 
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VolBall09 said:
I do think legs was a big issue on the boards. They had fresh legs and we didn’t. Still gutted out a tough win. Shows some growth and resilience. Only way you get to the top of the SEC is by beating everyone on the way there.
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It's funny,,In my experience I can run a three hour practice with intense drills and
some will stay to shoot afterward like they didn't even break a sweat earlier.

But those same kids can play 2 games with one hour separation and you would think they just did an overnight marathon.

Same with coaching , really.
After practice, I'm ready to get out there and enjoy some floor-time myself,,after a game, win or lose, I am ready for a sed-a-give
 
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VolBall09 said:
I do think legs was a big issue on the boards. They had fresh legs and we didn’t.
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We have several players who couldn't jump a lick even when they had brand spanking fresh legs. Couldn't slide a pizza between their feet and the floor when they try to rebound. We need a leaper. Ya'll see Yves Ponds yesterday? Key's an excellent shot blocker but it seems more to do with her super long arms and good sense of timing than leaping ability. She seems like a kid who could develop that skill tho.

I give KJH credit for having guts to experiment, even when it drives me crazy. We've seen all the posts have their moments, like Harris at the very beginning of the season for a few games, then Key, now McCoy, well maybe KK not so much but we hoped. I just want to see any of them play well consistently, and I don't care who tho I still think Key is the best hope for that.

I'm not worried about them being tired. Boo hoo. They're 20, they're elite athletes, they'll be fine. And all the more reason not to do something pointless like extra running for making turnovers.

I do think they hit a mental wall mid season; its a long time to keep such focus and concentration, not to speak of the hectic schedule. Big adjustment for the younguns.

That said, the current stretch of schedule is brutal and KJH said pointedly yesterday that she did not make this schedule and wouldn't have. Thanks Hol! Lovely parting gift.
 
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kayman1 said:
With Key's timing in blocking shots so good, it suprising she doesn't average 7 or 8 boards a game. 6'5 with long arms. LSU had 23 offensive rebounds today.
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Lady Vols MUST rebound better if this team is to show improvement. Few teams have more length, we should always win the rebounding stats.
 
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tnutater, I agree that the tallest team in Lady Vol history should always the rebounding stats. Hopefully, in the future, they will. But they’re going to have to develop some footspeed under the basket keep defenders from so easily blocking them out and/or just plain out-hustling them to the ball. We’re long, but sometimes appear to have slow reaction times. Is it something that can be improved? Hope so!

What I fear is the possibility that some of our players have a higher percentage of slow-twitch muscle fibers than we’re accustomed to seeing. If that’s the case, it’s a far more difficult obstacle to overcome.
 
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lvocd said:
tnutater, I agree that the tallest team in Lady Vol history should always the rebounding stats. Hopefully, in the future, they will. But they’re going to have to develop some footspeed under the basket keep defenders from so easily blocking them out and/or just plain out-hustling them to the ball. We’re long, but sometimes appear to have slow reaction times. Is it something that can be improved? Hope so!

What I fear is the possibility that some of our players have a higher percentage of slow-twitch muscle fibers than we’re accustomed to seeing. If that’s the case, it’s a far more difficult obstacle to overcome.
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Perhaps a little more experience will help with reaction times. Kellie needs to "coach up" some hustle for sure.
 
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tnutater said:
Lady Vols MUST rebound better if this team is to show improvement. Few teams have more length, we should always win the rebounding stats.
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Length doesn't help if we are out of position and not putting a body on somebody.

Several times today, we let LSU get offensive boards and stickbacks because no LV were on the weak side.
 
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Re: thread title...

This ain't Dancing With the Stars.

Besides, always viewed Kasi as being more adept at the shuffle than the waltz.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
I think that was a good idea. KK has just not been giving much positive minuets last few games and not aggressive at all for a player her size. Time to see what the bench has. Paid off today. Not bashing a player, just stating the obvious. Get better and you play, way it should be.
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I have disappointed in KK's lack of desire to improve her game in rebounding, ball handling, and condition . Attitude is so important to preforming. Maybe Harper can get her to improve in all these areas.
 
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Nute Gunray said:
Key has great timing. She blocks the ball and not the player. That is why she commits so few fouls. They may have to nickname her "Bill Russell" as she continues her shot blocking prowess. I hope most have heard of Bill Russell.
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Key,. is really good coming from the weak side to block shots. She protects the lane. She is not as good in direct one-on-one match-ups. Her post game is inconsistent. There are times where she works and gets a good position to score and other times where she is just pushed off the block. She is a freshman work in progress.

Some of her shortcomings will need to be fixed with off season strength and conditioning work (I have a lack of conditioning always contributes to her limited minutes) and the rest is the staff finding ways to make the most of her current abilities.

McCoy was a pleasant surprise. I expected she would bring a physical presence but that was not back door cut she made to get a basket and she has pretty good poise on the court. Her shot looks pretty good so she will probably have better overall shooting nights.

I am rethinking my expectations about her and what she can bring to the team. She seems to provide more of what the staff is hoping that Harris can deliver.
 
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Roller, I have often wondered if Kasi might have some unknown, underlying medical issue that makes her tire quickly. I’m sure she goes through the same conditioning routine as everyone else, so she really shouldn’t be any more tired than anyone else — but she often appears to be.

I think she needs to get a thorough checkup through UT Medical, with bloodwork, stress test, kidney function test, etc.
 
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I think Key has hit the freshman wall look really tired and that is why she hasn't played as much lately think the coaches recognize that as well. She didn't have to put out half the energy at Cary High as she has to put out playing ten minutes here.
I would keep giving KK three minutes and what she did in those three minutes would determine if she got anymore.
The McCoy stats were not that impressive, but everyone fans and players could feel the energy she was bringing to the team and that is why she was so important to the game yesterday.
Players making mistakes were suddenly being penalized yesterday Horston out after a weak pass, KK out after dribbling into a turnover for the rest of the game. I think it is a good move to take players out after bad mistakes to talk about them right then and point out how that type of play is unacceptable.
Final thought Davis 30 points on 13 shot attempts. Where would we be without Davis and where would we be if we could get one more player to rise close to her level of play.
 
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What defenses did LSU run? From highlights, it looked a little like the box-and-one again, the one on Rennia, which didn't slow her down. Key needs to move some more, more aggressively. I know it's hard being 6'5 and getting low against shorter players. KK probably needs to get in better physical shape. Does anyone know if Kellie is working the conditioning like Pat did? 5:00 a.m. distance runs, stairs, and sprints? Pat would line up different groups for 37 second suicides and if even one player didn't make it, the whole group had to run it again.
 
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PRG said:
Key lets teams push her around and McCoy is not so easy to push around ! And Jaiden is going to get in a scrum under the goal and Key is letting other teams bully her ! Two different players... JMO
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I disagree Key is a freshmen with a thin body, in HS she was able to withstand the pushing and banging. Now that she is on the collage level it`s much harder for her right now to withstand the banging down low. She was able to get a little stronger over the summer. Remember without Key in the post not just blocking shots and rebounding but making the other team players change there shots have been big for the team.
 
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VolBall09 said:
She needs to get a bit stronger. She gets knocked off center too easily. A summer in the weight room is going to do her a world of good.
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I agree a summer weight room will do. I think a lot of getting knock of the block has to do with her not wanting to get into foul trouble to. I remember KJH said she needs to learn how to stay on the floor withing out fouling. And to be fair i agree with what Carolyn Peck said yesterday some of the passes that went into the paint was were bad to all of the post players.
 
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PRG said:
Key lets teams push her around and McCoy is not so easy to push around ! And Jaiden is going to get in a scrum under the goal and Key is letting other teams bully her ! Two different players... JMO
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I agree...she played well during her time on the court. Key is soft, KK is ineffective and Harris probably isn't good enough to play against better teams. McCoy may not be a threat to score, but she plays physical inside.
 
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Amb3096 said:
I agree...she played well during her time on the court. Key is soft, KK is ineffective and Harris probably isn't good enough to play against better teams. McCoy may not be a threat to score, but she plays physical inside.
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Like i said it`s not Key is being to soft her body type is not like some of the other post players in the SEC or other good post players. But make no mistake she is getting better and a good summer workout will help.
 
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I got kinda confused when, after McCoy showed similar signs of grit and leadership in the season opener, posts on here were questioning why she was out there at all?

I also think the UConn game was a lesson for Kellie and our staff. What decisions do you make when Geno reads your team as slow and butterfingered? Go smaller, quicker, tougher, and/or more steady with your subs. May still not win but can stave off a bloodbath.
 
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