Notre Dame doesnt deserve a BCS Bid

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SI.com - Writers - Cory McCartney's All-Out Blitz: Irish undeserving of BCS; OU's surprise - Monday November 27, 2006 9:19AM

The Luck Of The Irish Two losses against BCS-bound opponents by 26 (Michigan) and 20 points (USC), yet Notre Dame is a lock to earn a spot in one of the game's most lucrative bowls. Yeah, that seems right, doesn't it? Of the top 12 teams in the latest BCS rankings, it's the Irish who are the least deserving of a bid (Say what you want about Boise State, but the Broncos beat everyone on their schedule, including Oregon State). Look at the way Notre Dame performed in the losses to the Wolverines and Trojans and tell me it's still one of the best teams in the country. Its only quality wins came against Georgia Tech and Penn State, while the Irish had to comeback and beat subpar Michigan State and UCLA (who was without its starting QB). But come Jan. 3 the Irish (who are 10th in the latest BCS standings) will likely be in the Sugar Bowl against the SEC champ while teams like Wisconsin (7th) and Auburn (11th) will be shut out of the showcase bowl games. It's as much an indictment of a system that won't allow three teams from the same conference to get BCS berths, a system that ought to be retooled to give the best 12 teams a shot, period, not the best teams that meet certain qualifiers. This year it means that the Badgers and Tigers are automatically left out while Ohio State and Michigan take the Big Ten bids, while the SEC champ (Arkansas or Florida) and likely LSU take the SEC's invites. It also means the Irish will be able to reap the benefits of being one of the best teams in the country because of a 10-2 mark and a system that allows them to play in a top-teir bowl, even if with two blowout losses in their biggest games, they have shown they don't belong.
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Is there any doubt the BCS doesn't work, and teams from tough conferences are getting the shaft?
 
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BCS doesn't work? Come on...if it was the old system of bowls we'd be left with Ohio State versus Southern Cal in the Rose bowl. It's be utter chaos and we'd have no idea who the real national champion should be.:wink2:
 
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No they do not. Okay we lost this year fact, but they got blown out of the water twice. There has to be someone else better. Not too mention they haven't won a bowl game in 8 attempts.
 
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DrRosenRosen said:
BCS doesn't work? Come on...if it was the old system of bowls we'd be left with Ohio State versus Southern Cal in the Rose bowl. It's be utter chaos and we'd have no idea who the real national champion should be.:wink2:
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it is likey to be OSU and USC in the Rose Bowl for the Natl Ch. this year!!!!!!
 
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DrRosenRosen said:
BCS doesn't work? Come on...if it was the old system of bowls we'd be left with Ohio State versus Southern Cal in the Rose bowl. It's be utter chaos and we'd have no idea who the real national champion should be.:wink2:
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Good to see you post on the main board for once! Please. For the love of God, we need more people saying things that make sense.

Notre Dame may not deserve a BCS bid... But they are probably getting one.
 
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patrick said:
it is likey to be OSU and USC in the Rose Bowl for the Natl Ch. this year!!!!!!
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It is more likely to be OSU and USC in the "other" Fiesta Bowl, but the change of location doesn't mean much. I think that was DrRosenRosen's point.

The BCS isn't designed to put the 10 best teams in the 5 best bowls; it is designed to put the conference winners in the best bowls against 4 other teams that might make good games or interesting stories while providing a 1 vs. 2 matchup for the title.

I don't much like the BCS system, either, but Notre Dame is just as deserving of being in it as whoever wins the ACC or Boise St.
 
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cotton said:
It is more likely to be OSU and USC in the "other" Fiesta Bowl, but the change of location doesn't mean much. I think that was DrRosenRosen's point.

The BCS isn't designed to put the 10 best teams in the 5 best bowls; it is designed to put the conference winners in the best bowls against 4 other teams that might make good games or interesting stories while providing a 1 vs. 2 matchup for the title.

I don't much like the BCS system, either, but Notre Dame is just as deserving of being in it as whoever wins the ACC or Boise St.
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ND is more deserving of it than Boise St. but I dunno so much about some of the conference winners......Then again, they lost to two of the top three teams in the country...So all in all its not been a bad season for the Irish but they got spanked twice.....I just wonder if they'll get it handed to them in the Bowl game too
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
ND is more deserving of it than Boise St. but I dunno so much about some of the conference winners......Then again, they lost to two of the top three teams in the country...So all in all its not been a bad season for the Irish but they got spanked twice.....I just wonder if they'll get it handed to them in the Bowl game too
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Yeah, they played Michigan and USC. They were made to look JV in both of those games. Their other games?

Georgia Tech, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, Navy, North Carolina, Air Force, Army.

Ooooooooooh.
 
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milohimself said:
Yeah, they played Michigan and USC. They were made to look JV in both of those games. Their other games?

Georgia Tech, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, Navy, North Carolina, Air Force, Army.

Ooooooooooh.
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Georgia Tech and Penn State are the only two teams they beat worth bragging about......Michigan St......decent team, bad coaching.....Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, Navy,North Carolina, Air Force, and Army.....Right of the top of my head out of those only 2 of those teams are bowl eligible.....that's UCLA and Purdue...Correct me if I'm wrong.....Navy might be bowl eligible too...Not sure
 
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milohimself said:
Yeah, they played Michigan and USC. They were made to look JV in both of those games. Their other games?

Georgia Tech, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, Navy, North Carolina, Air Force, Army.

Ooooooooooh.
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Not exactly the gaunlet.
 
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It would be fitting for Boise St to play Notre Dame in the BCS Bowl since neither are deserving. It will be more fun watching ND & Boise St get beat by 20+ pts again by a quality team.
 
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Bingo... neither one should be there, so it'd be cool to see them get crushed. However they'll probably get matched up with the ACC and Big "No Defense" East champions.
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
Georgia Tech and Penn State are the only two teams they beat worth bragging about......Michigan St......decent team, bad coaching.....Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, Navy,North Carolina, Air Force, and Army.....Right of the top of my head out of those only 2 of those teams are bowl eligible.....that's UCLA and Purdue...Correct me if I'm wrong.....Navy might be bowl eligible too...Not sure
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As long as Reggie Ball is the qb, GT will achieve nothing. Penn State, are you kidding me? They have nothing to brag about. But that a$$, who is even fatter than Fulmer, enjoys more than 3m every year, and effortlessly get his a$$ into BCS bowl game. Well, we need to switch to independent team.
 
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milohimself said:
Yeah, they played Michigan and USC. They were made to look JV in both of those games. Their other games?

Georgia Tech, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, Navy, North Carolina, Air Force, Army.

Ooooooooooh.
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On another perspective you put our Vols on this schedule and we go 6-4...maybe:mf_surrender:
 
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I hope Boise State and ND play and Boise State beats them by 40.

Boise State will still be you know Boise State and Notre Dame will be embarrased forever. Charlie will rent out a McDonald's for a week out of depression.
 
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Notre Dame will most likely draw the SEC Champ. For all of you who hate Notre Dame and can say nothing about Notre Dame without mentioning the size of their coach, this one will be unbearable.

Notre Dame will match up very well against both UF and Arkansas. Neither team throws the ball exceptionally well and ND actually defended the run pretty well against both Michigan and USC.

I just have to wonder what some of you will be saying if/when ND beats the SEC Champ in a BCS game. Wait, I already know, "well, ND didn't deserve to be in the game anyway..."
 
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therealUT said:
Notre Dame will most likely draw the SEC Champ. For all of you who hate Notre Dame and can say nothing about Notre Dame without mentioning the size of their coach, this one will be unbearable.

Notre Dame will match up very well against both UF and Arkansas. Neither team throws the ball exceptionally well and ND actually defended the run pretty well against both Michigan and USC.

I just have to wonder what some of you will be saying if/when ND beats the SEC Champ in a BCS game. Wait, I already know, "well, ND didn't deserve to be in the game anyway..."
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Notre Dame is a very dangerous offensive team, and they are capable of playing with whichever representative the conference sends to New Orleans.

I think, however, that either SEC team should win, especially if it is Florida. The Gator D should be able to match up with ND's offense, and the Irish D might just make Urban's toned down offense look as potent as it was supposed to this year.
 
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therealUT said:
Notre Dame will most likely draw the SEC Champ. For all of you who hate Notre Dame and can say nothing about Notre Dame without mentioning the size of their coach, this one will be unbearable.

Notre Dame will match up very well against both UF and Arkansas. Neither team throws the ball exceptionally well and ND actually defended the run pretty well against both Michigan and USC.

I just have to wonder what some of you will be saying if/when ND beats the SEC Champ in a BCS game. Wait, I already know, "well, ND didn't deserve to be in the game anyway..."
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I am with you on this and think that a SEC champ and ND would be a good matchup.
 
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cotton said:
Notre Dame is a very dangerous offensive team, and they are capable of playing with whichever representative the conference sends to New Orleans.

I think, however, that either SEC team should win, especially if it is Florida. The Gator D should be able to match up with ND's offense, and the Irish D might just make Urban's toned down offense look as potent as it was supposed to this year.
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As poorly as ND played against Michigan and USC, let's remember, that was Michigan and USC!

The fact that ND almost lost to Mich. State and UCLA, means nothing, because they didn't lose. Florida's defense will certainly be able to limit NDs rushing game. However, I have my doubts that UF or Arkansas will be able to shut Quinn down. Arkansas has yet to stop a potent passing offense (50-14) and Florida let a UT team that had -11 yards on the ground put up 20 points on them.

I am not saying it is definitely going to happen, however, if ND gets matched up with the SEC Champ, I can't wait to see the responses on here if/when ND wins.
 
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therealUT said:
As poorly as ND played against Michigan and USC, let's remember, that was Michigan and USC!

The fact that ND almost lost to Mich. State and UCLA, means nothing, because they didn't lose. Florida's defense will certainly be able to limit NDs rushing game. However, I have my doubts that UF or Arkansas will be able to shut Quinn down. Arkansas has yet to stop a potent passing offense (50-14) and Florida let a UT team that had -11 yards on the ground put up 20 points on them.

I am not saying it is definitely going to happen, however, if ND gets matched up with the SEC Champ, I can't wait to see the responses on here if/when ND wins.
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Fla I think loses to ND and Arky would beat them.
 
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