now here's the Obama libs love.

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next thing you know, he will be reaching out to all the bammers and allowing them to marry their goats, or their sisters....
 
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bet those union members in the rust belt are happy now. frankly, his positions on this do not bother me at all but I think it's going to be hell when we see the tax policy.
 
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yah lets raise taxes on big businesses, that sounds like a great idea, i mean seriously thats not going to make them cut jobs or anythings, or drive up prices, no way,,,
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
bet those union members in the rust belt are happy now. frankly, his positions on this do not bother me at all but I think it's going to be hell when we see the tax policy.
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the speech yesterday talking about how we haven't been responsible in our economic decision making and the shared burden of making amends didn't sound good at all.
 
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I thought most conservatives supported granting same sex couples benefits and legal rights as long as the couples are not able to be recognized as "married." Was under the impression Obama was compromising on the issue, am I wrong on that?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I thought most conservatives supported granting same sex couples benefits and legal rights as long as the couples are not able to be recognized as "married." Was under the impression Obama was compromising on the issue, am I wrong on that?
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i suspect most conservatives don't give a rip, me included.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
the speech yesterday talking about how we haven't been responsible in our economic decision making and the shared burden of making amends didn't sound good at all.
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This part sounds like it could be a sign of things to come. Two things came to mind, socialist policy (income redistribution) and reparations.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
the speech yesterday talking about how we haven't been responsible in our economic decision making and the shared burden of making amends didn't sound good at all.
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I heard neither "shared burden" nor "amends" coming out of that. I heard it as economic plight the fault of greedy folks at the top, people irresponsibly borrowing way more than they could afford, lack of oversight. And that the result is that we are all in a situation where its going to be all hands on deck to deal with it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I thought most conservatives supported granting same sex couples benefits and legal rights as long as the couples are not able to be recognized as "married." Was under the impression Obama was compromising on the issue, am I wrong on that?
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I believe it is the right thing to do for the overall moral compass of our country.
 
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KB5252 said:
This part sounds like it could be a sign of things to come. Two things came to mind, socialist policy (income redistribution) and reparations.
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I don't think anyone realizes how hard reparations would be to prove and distribute. It would be pure chaos. Although Chappelle made it seem really funny
 
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lawgator1 said:
I heard neither "shared burden" nor "amends" coming out of that. I heard it as economic plight the fault of greedy folks at the top, people irresponsibly borrowing way more than they could afford, lack of oversight. And that the result is that we are all in a situation where its going to be all hands on deck to deal with it.
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you need listen again
 
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BigPapaVol said:
you need listen again
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Or maybe folks should stop reading between the lines and/or simply assuming that he is up to no good because they figure down the line he will be.

I hear all these Republicans on the talk shows saying they are willing to give him a chance and hope he succeeds. Almost always followed with the party line on how he's going to screw everything up.

Not surprised, that's politics. Democrats said the same thing about Bush, that they were hoping he would do well but plotting from the beginning to undermine everything he did.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Or maybe folks should stop reading between the lines and/or simply assuming that he is up to no good because they figure down the line he will be.

I hear all these Republicans on the talk shows saying they are willing to give him a chance and hope he succeeds. Almost always followed with the party line on how he's going to screw everything up.

Not surprised, that's politics. Democrats said the same thing about Bush, that they were hoping he would do well but plotting from the beginning to undermine everything he did.
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I'm serious, listen again. He clearly said we're about to share in the pain. I'm all for giving the guy a chance. In fact, I have no option. We were talking about what the guy said and what his first move was in the job.

I'm not at all saying he's going to screw anything up. I was agreeing with VHB's concerns about the new tax plan.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm serious, listen again. He clearly said we're about to share in the pain. I'm all for giving the guy a chance. In fact, I have no option. We were talking about what the guy said and what his first move was in the job.

I'm not at all saying he's going to screw anything up. I was agreeing with VHB's concerns about the new tax plan.
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Latest I heard was that he was not going to repeal the Bush tax cuts, just let them expire naturally in, what is it, 2010? I also heard though that he might trim the corporate rate. Would think that popular in some circles, though unless he cuts it in half people will still complain its way too high.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Or maybe folks should stop reading between the lines and/or simply assuming that he is up to no good because they figure down the line he will be.

I hear all these Republicans on the talk shows saying they are willing to give him a chance and hope he succeeds. Almost always followed with the party line on how he's going to screw everything up.

Not surprised, that's politics. Democrats said the same thing about Bush, that they were hoping he would do well but plotting from the beginning to undermine everything he did.
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least you admitted both parties do it
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't think anyone realizes how hard reparations would be to prove and distribute. It would be pure chaos. Although Chappelle made it seem really funny
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It would be a disaster to implement. Since records were kept on very few slaves it would be next to impossible to prove who you descended from.

On a lighter note I'm afraid the end result of giving reparations would be very much like Chappelle's skit.
 
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How about ending the self employment tax for people who have an employer and own/operate their own side business with no employees?
 
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