'25 UT OG Douglas Utu (Oregon commit)

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SoilVol said:
But we are seeing Nichols produce at a high level now, because Nichols turned around and is starting for a decent SEC program and playing well. He couldn't beat out GE's starters that he developed, and instead of being patient and waiting his turn, he left. So, GE did, in fact, target and sign a quality HS recruit then developed him into an SEC starter. They just aren't starting here yet because our line is one of the best and oldest. (This is not specifically directed at anything you've said)
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Nichols got beat a few times by a bad Oklahoma State defense. He’s not producing at a high level. He would’ve never started at Tennessee.
 
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MetalVolunteer said:
Can’t say I’m not bummed about this. This kid has so much potential. It is what it is, but man was looking forward to this wearing Orange
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He’s Samoan. Money is paramount to them. Because they’re all about taking care of family.
My wife’s culture is very similar in that regard.

Look at Tua Tagavailoa. This dude still hasn’t retired despite the many brain injuries he’s sustained at QB. Why? Because he wants to make all that money for all those family members he’s taking care off.

Tennessee would have allowed him to play RT. And David Sanders plays LT not RT. So these other “reasons” are just fodder to hide the real reason. Money. And that’s understandable.
 
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LotteryPick said:
Seems like Satterwhite has secured the center spot and I’d anticipate Perry or Bennett take the RT spot. They are SUPER high on Perry
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Turns out maybe blocking in that single wing scheme didn’t stunt his development…Mebbe had advantages. Required him to move his feet more than a traditional zone blocking OL.
 
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J C Higgins said:
Report:

Five star OL Utu has flipped to Oregon.

sports.yahoo.com

4-star offensive lineman Douglas Utu flips commitment to Oregon football from Tennessee

Four-star offensive lineman Douglas Utu flipped his commitment from Tennessee to Oregon, he announced Thursday on social media.
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This looks like a reflection of how we played against Oklahoma. It is my belief we need a serious improvement to our OL play this year, or we may need to look for an OL guy. I hope these guys can get healthy and find a way.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
This looks like a reflection of how we played against Oklahoma. It is my belief we need a serious improvement to our OL play this year, or we may need to look for an OL guy. I hope these guys can get healthy and find a way.
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Boise St had 4 sacks vs Oregon. Idaho sacked Oregon’s QB 3x. Idaho.

But totally, he prob made his decision off of our one game vs Oklahoma.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Boise St had 4 sacks vs Oregon. Idaho sacked Oregon’s QB 3x. Idaho.

But totally, he prob made his decision off of our one game vs Oklahoma.
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Especially since it was made prior to the game being played. This was reported last week. He just made it official this week.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
This looks like a reflection of how we played against Oklahoma. It is my belief we need a serious improvement to our OL play this year, or we may need to look for an OL guy. I hope these guys can get healthy and find a way.
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Talk about a talking out of your ass post. lol this dude was trending to Oregon before the OU game
 
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vegasvolfan said:
This looks like a reflection of how we played against Oklahoma. It is my belief we need a serious improvement to our OL play this year, or we may need to look for an OL guy. I hope these guys can get healthy and find a way.
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WTF are you talking about? This guy has been trending to OU for a while now and was CB’d there.

We have the #1 OT in the class. Wouldn’t he be worried using your criteria.?
 
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vegasvolfan said:
This looks like a reflection of how we played against Oklahoma. It is my belief we need a serious improvement to our OL play this year, or we may need to look for an OL guy. I hope these guys can get healthy and find a way.
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This incredibly stupid take puts your UGA and Bama worshipping post in the ff in more context, so thank you for that. I’ll know to just not take anything you post seriously, ever.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
This looks like a reflection of how we played against Oklahoma. It is my belief we need a serious improvement to our OL play this year, or we may need to look for an OL guy. I hope these guys can get healthy and find a way.
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I just wanted to be like everyone else. So shame on you!
 
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Glen is a really good offensive line coach.

He’s a bad recruiter and we have unfortunately created basically no depth in 4 years on the offensive line. I’m optimistic about our freshman and high school kids (although Utu would’ve had a shot at being a day 1 starter) but we have gotten 0 solid contributors from the first two classes and that’s a real problem. We’ve had to rely on Covid years and Spyre carrying water for the portal to have a semblance of an offensive line. It’s not that offensive line is a developmental position as many here will argue.. it’s not that we were hamstrung with initial classes as many here will argue. I will tell you it’s a bigger issue than that and if you want to believe differently, agree to disagree.

I don’t know if you can make $900K and be our 2nd highest paid assistant and do only the coaching on the field part of the job well forever. We need to find a Chop to support him or figure something out because offensive line depth is the biggest problem on this team and I think the biggest problem in the program.

It’s definitely not fixed because the freshman seem good and we have David Sanders coming in. There is a bigger problem than that.. maybe it doesn’t matter this year and Heard and Campbell play and were fine, but just because it doesn’t happen, doesn’t mean there aren’t concerns.
 
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KingVFL said:
Glen is a really good offensive line coach.

He’s a bad recruiter and we have unfortunately created basically no depth in 4 years on the offensive line. I’m optimistic about our freshman and high school kids (although Utu would’ve had a shot at being a day 1 starter) but we have gotten 0 solid contributors from the first two classes and that’s a real problem. We’ve had to rely on Covid years and Spyre carrying water for the portal to have a semblance of an offensive line. It’s not that offensive line is a developmental position as many here will argue.. it’s not that we were hamstrung with initial classes as many here will argue. I will tell you it’s a bigger issue than that and if you want to believe differently, agree to disagree.

I don’t know if you can make $900K and be our 2nd highest paid assistant and do only the coaching on the field part of the job well forever. We need to find a Chop to support him or figure something out because offensive line depth is the biggest problem on this team and I think the biggest problem in the program.

It’s definitely not fixed because the freshman seem good and we have David Sanders coming in. There is a bigger problem than that.. maybe it doesn’t matter this year and Heard and Campbell play and were fine, but just because it doesn’t happen, doesn’t mean there aren’t concerns.
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KingVFL said:
Glen is a really good offensive line coach.

He’s a bad recruiter and we have unfortunately created basically no depth in 4 years on the offensive line. I’m optimistic about our freshman and high school kids (although Utu would’ve had a shot at being a day 1 starter) but we have gotten 0 solid contributors from the first two classes and that’s a real problem. We’ve had to rely on Covid years and Spyre carrying water for the portal to have a semblance of an offensive line. It’s not that offensive line is a developmental position as many here will argue.. it’s not that we were hamstrung with initial classes as many here will argue. I will tell you it’s a bigger issue than that and if you want to believe differently, agree to disagree.

I don’t know if you can make $900K and be our 2nd highest paid assistant and do only the coaching on the field part of the job well forever. We need to find a Chop to support him or figure something out because offensive line depth is the biggest problem on this team and I think the biggest problem in the program.

It’s definitely not fixed because the freshman seem good and we have David Sanders coming in. There is a bigger problem than that.. maybe it doesn’t matter this year and Heard and Campbell play and were fine, but just because it doesn’t happen, doesn’t mean there aren’t concerns.
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Replace Glen with Sam Pittman when he's fired.
 
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tnhunter 10 said:
Replace Glen with Sam Pittman when he's fired.
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Sam is as good as anyone’s that done it.

I bet he just retires or goes back to Georgia but we’d be lucky to have him in whatever capacity we could get him to show up to Knoxville.

But again, I’m not calling for Glen to be fired. Can’t let perfect be the enemy of very good.. but we do need to figure out how to fix this problem.
 
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KingVFL said:
Sam is as good as anyone’s that done it.

I bet he just retires or goes back to Georgia but we’d be lucky to have him in whatever capacity we could get him to show up to Knoxville.

But again, I’m not calling for Glen to be fired. Can’t let perfect be the enemy of very good.. but we do need to figure out how to fix this problem.
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You nailed what would seem to be the correct answer. Get a person, such as a Chop, in an off-field role that recruits love. Somebody that will pick up the slack when it comes to recruiting. Then once the talent is here Glen will do a great job developing that talent.
 
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KingVFL said:
Glen is a really good offensive line coach.

He’s a bad recruiter and we have unfortunately created basically no depth in 4 years on the offensive line. I’m optimistic about our freshman and high school kids (although Utu would’ve had a shot at being a day 1 starter) but we have gotten 0 solid contributors from the first two classes and that’s a real problem. We’ve had to rely on Covid years and Spyre carrying water for the portal to have a semblance of an offensive line. It’s not that offensive line is a developmental position as many here will argue.. it’s not that we were hamstrung with initial classes as many here will argue. I will tell you it’s a bigger issue than that and if you want to believe differently, agree to disagree.

I don’t know if you can make $900K and be our 2nd highest paid assistant and do only the coaching on the field part of the job well forever. We need to find a Chop to support him or figure something out because offensive line depth is the biggest problem on this team and I think the biggest problem in the program.

It’s definitely not fixed because the freshman seem good and we have David Sanders coming in. There is a bigger problem than that.. maybe it doesn’t matter this year and Heard and Campbell play and were fine, but just because it doesn’t happen, doesn’t mean there aren’t concerns.
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Sham, Larry Johnson, Satterwhite, Lang, Gage, Jesse perry. Some of these guys have snaps under their belt. Granted we don’t know that they are “quality depth” yet, but there is still a whole season to play and an offseason to figure out the best 5 next year.

Not sure I agree with no depth and I think guys like AP and Hubbs would also disagree although they are not football savants. AP and Hubbs both said there is no college football team in America that have amazing depth on the OL particularly at the OT position. Idk I think it’s a bit harsh to say we have created no depth
 
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GoodTimeVol said:
Sham, Larry Johnson, Satterwhite, Lang, Gage, Jesse perry. Some of these guys have snaps under their belt. Granted we don’t know that they are “quality depth” yet, but there is still a whole season to play and an offseason to figure out the best 5 next year.

Not sure I agree with no depth and I think guys like AP and Hubbs would also disagree although they are not football savants. AP and Hubbs both said there is no college football team in America that have amazing depth on the OL particularly at the OT position. Idk I think it’s a bit harsh to say we have created no depth
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First I acknowledged I liked the freshman class. You listed 3 true freshman who have played no important minutes. Not depth.

Lang and Sham have shown nothing to make us believe they are real players. Hopefully they are but nothing to date.

Larry Johnson is not a guy you want out there right now in important periods.

I think you want to believe something, which is fine and we’ll agree to disagree.
 
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