Obama-Ayers Connection

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In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district's influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde Park as local activists, they're better known nationally as two of the most notorious -- and unrepentant -- figures from the violent fringe of the 1960s anti-war movement. ... 'I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers' house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,' said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the info rmal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. '[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor.' ... Dr. Young and another guest, Maria Warren, described it similarly: as an introduction to Hyde Park liberals of the handpicked successor to Palmer, a well-regarded figure on the left. 'When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,' Warren wrote on her blog in 2005. 'They were launching him -- introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread.'" (Ben Smith, "Obama Once Visited '60s Radicals," The Politico, 1/22/08)
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"The two men were involved in efforts to reform the city's education system. They appeared together on academic panels, including one organized by Michelle Obama to discuss the juvenile justice system, an area of mutual concern. Mr. Ayers's book on the subject won a rave review in The Chicago Tribune by Mr. Obama, who called it 'a searing and timely account.'" (Jo Becker and Christopher Drew, "Pragmatic Politics, Forged On The South Side," The New York Times, 5/11/08)
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"The coalition was said to be a violence-prone faction inspired by the Weather Underground's ''Prairie Fire,'' a guerrilla warfare manual published in 1974. The manual begins, 'We are a guerrilla organization. We are Communist women and men, underground in the United States for more than four years.'" (Paul L. Montgomery, "2 Women In Brink's Case Identified With Weathermen From Start In '69," The New York Times, 10/ 22/81)
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Obama's judgment and discretion, once again, are shown to be absolutely atrocious in regards to who, as a public figure or aspiring public figure, spends his time with.
 
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therealUT said:
Obama's judgment and discretion, once again, are shown to be absolutely atrocious in regards to who, as a public figure or aspiring public figure, spends his time with.
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Nah not yet he still has'nt spent time with charles Keating and if this is all Mccain has on a day when the stock market went below 10000 then this will pretty much be what the electoral map will look like on NOV.5.
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Nah not yet he still has'nt spent time with Frank Keating and if this is all Mccain has on a day when the stock market went below 10000 then this will pretty much be what the electoral map will look like on NOV.5.
Political Dashboard - 2008 Presidential Election on Yahoo! News:rock:
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You are severely out of touch if you are trying to compare the Keating 5 "scandal" to willingly associating with an admitted anti-US guerilla and communist, and considering RJW as a mentor and close friend.

If I am choosing the lesser of two evils, I am taking the guy who was exonerated by Congress for his role in the fraud committed by John Keating. However, you probably have no problem with John Glenn, do you?
 
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DAVOL said:
Nah not yet he still has'nt spent time with Frank Keating and if this is all Mccain has on a day when the stock market went below 10000 then this will pretty much be what the electoral map will look like on NOV.5.
Political Dashboard - 2008 Presidential Election on Yahoo! News:rock:
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I agree, this hail mary won't work for McCain but I understand why he's doing it. Nothing else is working for him either. Obama stretched his lead after the last debate, the one that was supposed to be McCain's strength on foreign policy so how is he going to do anything in the final two debates?
 
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You are severely out of touch if you are trying to compare the Keating 5 "scandal" to willingly associating with an admitted anti-US guerilla and communist, and considering RJW as a mentor and close friend.

If I am choosing the lesser of two evils, I am taking the guy who was exonerated by Congress for his role in the fraud committed by John Keating. However, you probably have no problem with John Glenn, do you?
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Is John Glenn running for president and I didn't know it.I'm sure most of America is not concerned about a 1960's radical when our economy is on the brink because of financial scandals which is exactly what the keating 5 falls under.:good!:
If you are choosing you will take the guy with an (R) behind his name over a (D) anyday anytime and you know it.
 
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Not sure that less than 5 point leads for BHO in Ohio, Virginia, Florida, and Colorado should make one consider those states to be locks for BHO. Historically speaking, an African-American candidate needs at least a 9 point lead in the polls prior to election day to beat a white candidate in America. Combine that with the assumption that polling data continues to sway more towards traditionally democratic voters, due to various socio-economic factors, and BHO definitely will not have 330 electoral votes on Nov. 4th.
 
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Is John Glenn running for president and I didn't know it.I'm sure most of America is not concerned about a 1960's radical when our economy is on the brink because of financial scandals which is exactly what the keating 5 falls under.:good!:
If you are choosing you will take the guy with an (R) behind his name over a (D) anyday anytime and you know it.
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In that case, we should probably overlook BHO's connection to Fannie May and Freddie Mac, right???

I am pretty positive that Fannie and Freddie are extremely more pertinent to the current economic situation then the Keating 5 has ever been pertinent to economics on the national level...

Thanks for the insight. You are also way off on your assumption that I have always and will always vote GOP over DNC.

However, I will not vote for a socialist candidate who seems to spend time with people who espouse a philosophy of violently undermining the societal infrastructure of the nation that they live in. I think that is much more important in the long run than the handful (at most) of tough years America might face, financially, due to, ultimately, negligence and irresponsibility on behalf of the consumer.
 
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therealUT said:
Not sure that less than 5 point leads for BHO in Ohio, Virginia, Florida, and Colorado should make one consider those states to be locks for BHO. Historically speaking, an African-American candidate needs at least a 9 point lead in the polls prior to election day to beat a white candidate in America. Combine that with the assumption that polling data continues to sway more towards traditionally democratic voters, due to various socio-economic factors, and BHO definitely will not have 330 electoral votes on Nov. 4th.
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Too bad that didn't work for the Clinton's during the primaries.
 
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In that case, we should probably overlook BHO's connection to Fannie May and Freddie Mac, right???

I am pretty positive that Fannie and Freddie are extremely more pertinent to the current economic situation then the Keating 5 has ever been pertinent to economics on the national level...

Thanks for the insight. You are also way off on your assumption that I have always and will always vote GOP over DNC.

However, I will not vote for a socialist candidate who seems to spend time with people who espouse a philosophy of violently undermining the societal infrastructure of the nation that they live in. I think that is much more important in the long run than the handful (at most) of tough years America might face, financially, due to, ultimately, negligence and irresponsibility on behalf of the consumer.
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Well then Mccain then should talk about Fannie and Freddie(which he has tried but is absolutely picking up no traction with it) cause I hope you are politically astute enough to realize this Ayres nonsense only helps with your base which is already voting Mccain.
 
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therealUT said:
Not sure that less than 5 point leads for BHO in Ohio, Virginia, Florida, and Colorado should make one consider those states to be locks for BHO. Historically speaking, an African-American candidate needs at least a 9 point lead in the polls prior to election day to beat a white candidate in America. Combine that with the assumption that polling data continues to sway more towards traditionally democratic voters, due to various socio-economic factors, and BHO definitely will not have 330 electoral votes on Nov. 4th.
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If he takes one of the 4 it's over.
 
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Too bad that didn't work for the Clinton's during the primaries.
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You are right. It did not work in Missouri and Connecticut...

Every other state that was won by BHO was won by more than 9% of the vote.
 
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The Ayers-Obama connection gives the appearance of desperation because there is only a very little bit of evidence that links the two. Pretty much the same thing holds true for McCain and Keating.

If McCain is going to go after one of Obama’s personal connections, Rev. Wright would be a much better target. Their connection was very close over a long period of time. And even this shouldn’t be the main focus of the campaign. I understand the value of noting questionable judgment on both sides, but I would much rather these campaigns focus on policy issues. In today’s political climate that seems like a dream that will never come true.
 
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Is John Glenn running for president and I didn't know it.I'm sure most of America is not concerned about a 1960's radical when our economy is on the brink because of financial scandals which is exactly what the keating 5 falls under.:good!:
If you are choosing you will take the guy with an (R) behind his name over a (D) anyday anytime and you know it.
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Other than their views on taxation, my personal finances play an extremely minor role in who I vote for, for the office of POTUS.

The company Obama keeps is much more worrisome than any financial stances McCain holds.
 
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allvol123 said:
Other than their views on taxation, my personal finances play an extremely minor role in who I vote for, for the office of POTUS.

The company Obama keeps is much more worrisome than any financial stances McCain holds.
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Ayers
Wright
Rezko
Winfrey
 
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Give the Keating BS a rest. McCain was found not to be guilty of anything.

Unlike 3 Democrats in that SNL scandal.
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I would say the same thing for the Ayres situation but I pray they continue to keep bringing this up cause it hasn't remotely worked before and obviously is not working now. If this is all McCain has we will be talking about 100-130 electoral bitchslap type beatdown on NOV.5.
 
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Ayers
Wright
Rezko
Winfrey
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You forgot one.

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allvol123 said:
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The company Obama keeps is much more worrisome than any financial stances McCain holds.
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Maybe to you but not most of America.
Politics - News, Opinion and Analysis from CNN.com
LMAO:)
Political Dashboard - 2008 Presidential Election on Yahoo! News
LMAO:dance2:
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:p
And before you scream bias here is a gift for you.
FOX News/Rasmussen Reports Poll: Obama Widens Lead in Three Battleground States - FOXNews.com ElectionsLMAO:eek:lol:
 
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DAVOL said:
Maybe to you but not most of America.
Politics - News, Opinion and Analysis from CNN.com
LMAO:)
Political Dashboard - 2008 Presidential Election on Yahoo! News
LMAO:dance2:
RealClearPolitics - Opinion, News, Analysis, Videos and Polls
:p
And before you scream bias here is a gift for you.
FOX News/Rasmussen Reports Poll: Obama Widens Lead in Three Battleground States - FOXNews.com ElectionsLMAO:eek:lol:
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I don't necessarily doubt your "most of America" point. From what I have seen, there are large numbers of idiots in this country.
 
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allvol123 said:
I don't necessarily doubt your "most of America" point. From what I have seen, there are large numbers of idiots in this country.
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Your right there how else could you explain GWB getting 2 terms in office.:dance2:
 
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Do you find this as humorous.Cause I sure as hell do.
Politics - News, Opinion and Analysis from CNN.com
LMAO:)
Political Dashboard - 2008 Presidential Election on Yahoo! News
LMAO:dance2:
RealClearPolitics - Opinion, News, Analysis, Videos and Polls
:p
And before you scream bias here is a gift for you.
FOX News/Rasmussen Reports Poll: Obama Widens Lead in Three Battleground States - FOXNews.com ElectionsLMAO:eek:lol:
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I will assume you are voting Obama.

Serious question. Can you explain one or more than one of his philosophies that will encourage growth in a struggling economy?
 
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