Obama Bent Over Backwards

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#2
but he's not George W. Bush and that's really all you need to know.

oh, and he went to Harvard, ya'll.
 
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#4
Did he say let me be clear when he talked about the sanctions? Because if not the Iranians may have misunderstood him.
 
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#13
I don't see any real solutions or ideas so far.

Exactly. The one you worship has all the resources of the US at his disposal to help him understand and he's exactly where we are (plus a bow). I'm hoping for another term.
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What should we, as a country, do?

I would say the best hope we had to prevent a nuke Iran was during the last Iranian election.

The door was cracked to get a revolution - not only did we not do anything to spur that, we (Obama) intentionally downplayed it and legitimized I'madinnerjacket and poured water on the revolutionary fire.

We could have publicly and privately pushed for the revolution - as we did during the end days of the Cold War.

Obama declined on the hope his ass-kissing direct talks with the "leader" would lead to Iran caving into our demands.

Looking back this was a huge missed opportunity and if he doesn't get really tough sanctions it will be viewed historically as a major foreign policy mistake.
 
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I would say the best hope we had to prevent a nuke Iran was during the last Iranian election.

The door was cracked to get a revolution - not only did we not do anything to spur that, we (Obama) intentionally downplayed it and legitimized I'madinnerjacket and poured water on the revolutionary fire.

We could have publicly and privately pushed for the revolution - as we did during the end days of the Cold War.

Obama declined on the hope his ass-kissing direct talks with the "leader" would lead to Iran caving into our demands.

Looking back this was a huge missed opportunity and if he doesn't get really tough sanctions it will be viewed historically as a major foreign policy mistake.

That would be true if you believe we were doing nothing. Revolutions have a habit of starting small and growing, they generally do not happen over night and this one may or may not succeed but it won't be Obama's fault.
 
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That would be true if you believe we were doing nothing. Revolutions have a habit of starting small and growing, they generally do not happen over night and this one may or may not succeed but it won't be Obama's fault.

Palin will screw it up...she's going to write Hi Ahmadinejad on her palm and sway the tide back in his favor.
 
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It would be too late, the Sadaf Party movement would be in full swing and Ahmadinejad's grass roots support would begin to swell.

But only in the short term. A great orator from the north will capture the imaginations of millions of Iranians and Palin's help will dwindle.
 
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That would be true if you believe we were doing nothing. Revolutions have a habit of starting small and growing, they generally do not happen over night and this one may or may not succeed but it won't be Obama's fault.

Saying we were doing nothing is an overstatement on my part. However, we gave no public indication that we supported the cause. Our public statements and actions (saying talks with leadership would go on as planned) indicated we saw disputed elections as final.

We may have been working behind the scenes but our overt actions were not supportive of a regime change.
 
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The door was cracked to get a revolution - not only did we not do anything to spur that, we (Obama) intentionally downplayed it and legitimized I'madinnerjacket and poured water on the revolutionary fire.

We could have publicly and privately pushed for the revolution - as we did during the end days of the Cold War.
all us doing that would accomplish is proving to the iranians on the fence that the revolutionaries were just a US tool

believe it or not having the US publically supporting you ain't always a good thing in certain parts of the world,especially in a country we've helped overthrow before...
 

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