Obama continues to walk in Bush's shadow

[therealUT]

you're about to get a story of gsvol's neighbor who just happened to be Ahmadinejad's pledge brother at Tehran U

Same neighbor who b**** slapped Jane Fonda and then refused to serve Ted Turner his griddle cakes.

 

[KiffinKiller]

Same neighbor who b**** slapped Jane Fonda and then refused to serve Ted Turner his griddle cakes.

who later had a shoot out with cowardly liberals at tombstone.

 

[utvolpj]

and spit out Kissinger's runny eggs and burned toast

 

[KB5252]

I really missed you guys, good to be back.

 

[therealUT]

and spit out Kissinger's runny eggs and burned toast

Forgot about his claim to be drinking buddies with Kissinger's former CO. Apparently, that 95 year old man still cannot get over the fact that he had an uppity private who went on to be a great statesman...right.

 

[lawgator1]

So LG, do you feel betrayed or not? Don't get so caught up with GS that you ignore fair questions/points.

Not particularly. I didn't vote based on ME policy. I am not overall pleased that we are still in the Afghanistan quagmire. I mean, its like the entire military establishment ignored what happened to the Soviets in the 1980s.

Even with the "successful" surge theoretically coming to an end, no one has described to me in remotely convincing terms what it was we accomplished. I suppose I am left to accept the representation that we killed a lot of Al-Qaeda types. Okaaaaayyyy.

I've seen some documentaries on these guys. They ride around on mules and the occasional oddly out of place motor scooter. If they have working guns, they don't show them. They don't have teeth and they live hundreds of miles inside mountainous territories where they have managed to cobble together some tree branches and make a fort on top of a barren rock in the middle of nowhere. They haven't had teeth in 20 years.

I'm supposed to believe that we need to spend 10s of billions a month and lose some soldiers because we have to get to these guys before they get to us? WTF?

Now, it may be true that from time to time we take out a 'leader" and there's some linkage between that guy and a suicide bomber from 18 years ago in India or something. But when we get those guys, its always on a street in Yemen or some sort of drone strike. I can't remember the last report of us accomplishing anything in Afghanistan.

I don't feel "betrayed" by the effort there. Confused, haphazardly uninformed, those would be more the sentiments I would express about Afghanistan.

No. It is Obama's fault because he naively thought/thinks that we're the problem.

They hate us for many reasons. One, it is easy to blame the successful for the failure of others... even if they had nothing to do with it. Two, a myriad of religious, historical, and cultural reasons. Three, our friendship with Israel. Four, we stand as an obstacle to the Islamic imperative to bring everyone under the "peace of Allah"... the rule of Islam.

Typical oversimplification from you. Sad, really.

I have repeatedly said that we would be better off if he were a "moderate" Muslim than a "Christian" taught black liberation theology for 20 years. FWIW, I don't think the UCC would care if he claimed to be both Christian and Muslim. IIRC, they have a pastor of a large church who professes to be atheist. I think they've been on the leading edge of efforts to bring Christians and Muslims together for worship and fellowship. Calling them hyper-ecumenical would not be a stretch or probably even an insult.

I am just glad you don't use naive and inaccurate labels too much. "Black liberation theology"? Sheesz.

I really missed you guys, good to be back.

Time off for good behavior?