Obama foreign policy has cost American servicemen's lives.

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The Obama Report

U.S. and NATO officials have acknowledged that, in the rush to implement the President's politically calculated troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, Afghan troops were not properly vetted, which resulted in the deaths of 45 coalition members - most of them Americans - at the hands of their supposed Afghan allies.

Hence, in an extremely belated response, the senior commander of U.S. special forces in Afghanistan has finally decided to suspend training for all new Afghan recruits until they can be re-vetted...

The spike in green-on-blue attacks has forced NATO officials to concede the 'painful truth': Many of the attacks might have been prevented "if existing security measures had been applied correctly,"...

Numerous military guidelines were not adhered to by either Afghans or Americans because of concerns that they might impede the growth of the Afghan army and police...

Requirements that Afghan soldiers produce proper credentials while on base were also ignored.

One U.S. official said there was a lot of pressure to increase the size of the Afghan forces. Consequently, the vetting process was "was cast aside" because it was viewed as an impediment to accomplishing this goal.

But why was there was a lot of pressure to increase the size of the Afghan forces?

Because President Obama is exerting this pressure.

Mr. Obama [the Politician-in-Chief] insists on handing over primary responsibility for Afghanistan’s security to Afghan forces by the middle of 2013 and to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014. That requires developing a sizable Afghan force in a short period of time, which is why stringent security measures and a thorough vetting process have not been properly implemented. And sadly, this has led to a huge spike in green-on-blue attacks, which has resulted in the deaths of U.S. and coalition troops.

And while insider attacks in Afghanistan have increased dramatically under President Obama's watch, he only recently [within the last week or two] acknowledged the problem. But, in truth, this is typical of Obama, who always seems to have an extremely belated and delayed response to problems: It takes him months [if not longer] before he is willing to acknowledge that a particular problem exists, no doubt because he would rather pretend as if these problems, which reflect poorly on his policy-making decisions, do not exist.
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In May of this year, I noted that, contrary to President Obama's assertion that the Taliban's momentum in Afghanistan had been broken as a result of his [failed] policies, both Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Mike Rogers, the leaders of the Senate and House intelligence committees, upon returning from from a fact-finding trip to Afghanistan, asserted that the Taliban has grown stronger over the last three years.

But of course, it's easy for Obama to lie when he's got the mainstream media on his side.
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can any President make the claim this didn't happen while he was in office?
 
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I can sit there and make a blogspot blog in about 5 minutes, and sit there and post stuff all day. Doesn't make it credible.
 
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Didnt read gs's copy/paste but the death tally in Afghanistan under Obama is pretty ugly. Once Bin Laden was killed there was no longer any reason to stay there.
 
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Hundreds of planes fly into and out of Bagram air base just outside Kabul each week.

Recently the cairman of the joint chiefs of staff flew in to consult with Karzai on this very topic.

Two RPGs were fired at his plane.

How did the shooters know that was his plane?

Had to be an inside job.

BTW, Feinstein's remarks have been published in the media, although you would have to look on page eight or so to find it.
 
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gsvol said:
Hundreds of planes fly into and out of Bagram air base just outside Kabul each week.

Recently the cairman of the joint chiefs of staff flew in to consult with Karzai on this very topic.

Two RPGs were fired at his plane.

How did the shooters know that was his plane?

Had to be an inside job.

BTW, Feinstein's remarks have been published in the media, although you would have to look on page eight or so to find it.
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his plane was on the ground and he was not in it. They've been doing that for years
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
In a blog.

Hey, at least you didn't link that ****.
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From your favorite commie rag:

Feinstein, Rogers say Taliban ‘stronger’ since surge - The Washington Post

WAPO aka Pravda on the Potomac.

What you produce is a;

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I don't know where you get your stupid ideas or what sort of fantasy world you live in, but facing the truth on any topic seems to fly over your head entirely.

May the bird of paradise fly up your stinking nose.






PimpVol said:
News flash. Typical republican bullshat. Hot out of the ass I mean oven.
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See above.

So you are openly declaring for the dhimmirats my friend?




utvolpj said:
his plane was on the ground and he was not in it. They've been doing that for years
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Permission to speak freely sir?

I would love to address some punk with the same sort of language with which you allow him to address me.

FWIW, Obama ranks (just barely) ahead of Clinton and Johnson as being the worst CIC in American history.

If you were a veteran yourself you might begin to understand but I understand that you aren't and you evidently can't.
 
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gsvol said:
If you were a veteran yourself you might begin to understand but I understand that you aren't and you evidently can't.
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so if I was a veteran then I would understand that your story was sensationalized and didn't happen as you described? Interesting

of course that's all I can assume since you completely ignored my post to whine some more about unfair treatment
 
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utvolpj said:
so if I was a veteran then I would understand that your story was sensationalized and didn't happen as you described? Interesting

of course that's all I can assume since you completely ignored my post to whine some more about unfair treatment
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Reality check; stinky dinky can call someone a horse's ass with impunity, how would it go over if I called you a horse's ass?

Not so well I think.

It happened just exactly as I said, the general's plane was chosen from among hundreds of others and attacked with RPGs.

Whether or not he was on the plane is open for discussion, if you were a veteran you would know that the military will lie to you like a dog if it suits their purpose, the farther up the chain of command you go the more likely that is, ultimately even the highest ranking officers are subject to civilian control and only a fool would think those political appointiees won't lie for political expediency.

You say such attacks aren't unusual, perhaps you want to document that? Attacks on Bagram usually come in the form of mortor attacks from outside the perimeter.

A rocket propelled grenade is a short range weapon. That means the attackers were well within the perimeter, how did they get there? Were they wearing the uniforms of Afghan soldiers? There is a lot to be found out about the incident but you can bet your sweet bippy you and I will never know the whole story.

I can only hope 7th army group will show up to add his insight, since he is on scene and actaully knows what's going on.

You constantly whine about me posting information from blogs.

OK here is something from what Orwell called the 'information bureau' and I've called the 'arab press' since 1963 when I was in a position to read their raw wire. If you could read the incredible amount of information that is passed along there for 24 hours you would understand two things, the stories coming in from the field are heavily edited and some stories are spiked and others are played up, both for political purposes.

I say that because even though I may alude to your ignorance I've never accused you of being stupid, I give you the muost recent AP aricle on the topic: (if you will notice when you read any newspaper, most of the information comes from the AP, once there was credible competition, but not today, we have only blogs to question the official story, thank God for the courageous people who spend their own time producing such blogs.)

Afghans cull armed forces of Taliban sympathizers - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

So far this year, 45 international service members, most of them Americans, have died at the hands of Afghan soldiers or policemen or insurgents wearing their uniforms. There were at least 12 such attacks in August alone, resulting in 15 deaths.
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That was the reason for the general's visit to begin with.

The bottom line is that two things stick out like a sore thumb to any rational observant person, Obama places political expediency before the well being of the American soldier (treasonous bastid that he is), and that our effort is heavily infiltrated by intelligence actuaries of the enemy, even to the highest levels, (due to the policies of the treasonous bastid Barack Hussein Obama.)

Now what do you have to say?
 
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utvolpj said:
so if I was a veteran then I would understand that your story was sensationalized and didn't happen as you described? Interesting

of course that's all I can assume since you completely ignored my post to whine some more about unfair treatment
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Get him
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
GS is a joke - you give your fellow GOPers a bad name...have to tone down the crazy bruh
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First I'm not a republican and secondly the only crazy in the equation is anyone that tries to defend Obama.

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And thirdly I'm not your bruh!

Hope that isn't too much for you to try to remember.
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
GS is a joke - you give your fellow GOPers a bad name...have to tone down the crazy bruh
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And this means absolutely nothing coming from a socialist lib. When you or anyone else can refute what he posts with documented (blogs or whatever) statements, you can have some cred, until then, you are simply another liberal whiner without a platform to stand on.....bruh.
 
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TNGlen said:
And this means absolutely nothing coming from a socialist lib. When you or anyone else can refute what he posts with documented (blogs or whatever) statements, you can have some cred, until then, you are simply another liberal whiner without a platform to stand on.....bruh.
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Finally been called a socialist on VN...it's a proud day for me.

I voted for Bush in 04 and McCain in 08 FYI - I do actually consider myself independent. I think it's best to examine the candidates individually rather than just labeling everyone a socialist (though I am seriously proud of that)
 
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And one last thing, I'm considering voting for Romney I haven't yet made up my mind (made a separate thread about this a few days ago so you know I'm not BSing)
 
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gsvol said:
First I'm not a republican and secondly the only crazy in the equation is anyone that tries to defend Obama.

Newt+vs+Bubba.jpg


And thirdly I'm not your bruh!

Hope that isn't too much for you to try to remember.
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Ok well you may not be a crazy person but you sure play a convincing one on the internet.
 
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TNGlen said:
And this means absolutely nothing coming from a socialist lib. When you or anyone else can refute what he posts with documented (blogs or whatever) statements, you can have some cred, until then, you are simply another liberal whiner without a platform to stand on.....bruh.
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it's been done many times but doesn't matter. He'll just continue to copy/paste spam blogs and post bad photoshops that most people ignore.

dukes_of_maggard said:
Finally been called a socialist on VN...it's a proud day for me.

I voted for Bush in 04 and McCain in 08 FYI - I do actually consider myself independent. I think it's best to examine the candidates individually rather than just labeling everyone a socialist (though I am seriously proud of that)
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don't think I've ever been called a socialist but I have gotten the lib label a few times. My favorite though was when I was called a bama troll. He was a smart guy
 
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utvolpj said:
it's been done many times but doesn't matter. He'll just continue to copy/paste spam blogs and post bad photoshops that most people ignore.



don't think I've ever been called a socialist but I have gotten the lib label a few times. My favorite though was when I was called a bama troll. He was a smart guy
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Are you kidding or being serious about being called a Bama troll? I can't imagine someone actually said that...
 
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