Obama May Meet Iranian President

#9
#9
It would be pretty sweet if Obama rocked a Member's Only jacket as a show of good will.
 
#10
#10
Even sweeter if Obama was polishing of some baby backs and offered an unwashed hand in friendship
 
#11
#11
Wait, so we would rather he DIDN'T meet with Iran's president, and instead sent him a BLT?

I don't understand why some jeer at the idea of peacefully figuring this Iran stuff out. I don't think it is likely, but I am not going to knock a guy for giving it a shot.
 
#12
#12
Wait. You're serious? We've been 'peacefully' trying to figure this Iran stuff out for decades with little to show for it but a nuclear program moving ahead and China and Russia thumbing us in the eye embarrassing us repeatedly. Do you really think that a guy who denies the Holocaust and makes the sort of comments he does is someone to discuss figurings of a peaceful nature? This is the same guy who used a proxy war to fight and train his troops and weapons against us in Iraq as well.
 
#13
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Wait. You're serious? We've been 'peacefully' trying to figure this Iran stuff out for decades with little to show for it but a nuclear program moving ahead and China and Russia thumbing us in the eye embarrassing us repeatedly. Do you really think that a guy who denies the Holocaust and makes the sort of comments he does is someone to discuss figurings of a peaceful nature? This is the same guy who used a proxy war to fight and train his troops and weapons against us in Iraq as well.

No. That's why I said, "I don't think it is likely." You know, in my post that you are responding to. But I don't understand why there is such vitriol being displayed. So they meet. Big deal.
 
#14
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Yeah. I was responding to knocking the guy for giving it a shot. You did put that part in there didn't you? Just checking.

It's called not giving credibility to the guy in the first place. Why waste your time on giving him face time with Obama? It comes out much better for him and we gain nothing in return. The guy stomped a peaceful demonstration and killed and tortured his own people. And as I said, he had Iranians and their weapons kill US soldiers and allies in Iraq. Call me old fashioned but I'm not one for handshakes and beers with a common street thug and a murderer of not only his own people but our soldiers as well.
 
#15
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It's all about how he does it and what conditions there are. He can turn it around on Mahmoud just as well.
 
#16
#16
And Mahmoud can break promises with the best of them....ask the UN and the inspectors that watch the yo-yo on a daily basis. Not to mention China and Russia covering for him. We get an agreement and they break them. We've seen a series of Presidents try everything in the book - well almost. The result? A rapidly developing weapons program including nuclear and "allies" that do everything to undermine agreements they themselves sign on to. What effort that was made for a democratic movement has now been suppressed during that brutal put-down not long ago. Any hopes of an internal effort dwindled seriously with watching those people get shot, beaten, or dragged off.
 
#17
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I mean, what's the alternative? War? I guess we already have them surrounded... But they are a little more militarily robust than our recent foes. And just as fanatical.
 
#18
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I mean, what's the alternative? War? I guess we already have them surrounded... But they are a little more militarily robust than our recent foes. And just as fanatical.

Solution?

Drop a bomb the size of Texas and sweep it under the rug, anyone mentions it, do the same.

Problem solved.
 
#21
#21
Well talking sure isn't working. He just keeps stalling and making the periodic concession that is later broken only to allow for more time to proceed on the weapons program. The longer we play footsie the more 'robust' they become. I really question their fanaticism. Not many Iranians strapping bombs to themselves to be martyrs for the cause. If anything, they're big on proxy fighting. The line of thought is that they'd cave about as fast as the Republican Guard in Iraq. Maybe the occasional band of idiots blazing through in a Toyota but nothing a .50 cal couldn't cut down.

Going there for Beer Summit II does nothing for us and everything for him.
 
#22
#22
Well talking sure isn't working. He just keeps stalling and making the periodic concession that is later broken only to allow for more time to proceed on the weapons program. The longer we play footsie the more 'robust' they become. I really question their fanaticism. Not many Iranians strapping bombs to themselves to be martyrs for the cause. If anything, they're big on proxy fighting. The line of thought is that they'd cave about as fast as the Republican Guard in Iraq. Maybe the occasional band of idiots blazing through in a Toyota but nothing a .50 cal couldn't cut down.

Going there for Beer Summit II does nothing for us and everything for him.

Swap out Obama for the Governor of California. Problem solved.
 
#23
#23
Semper Fi!
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From the halls of Montezuma
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to the shore of Tripoli.
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Muslim Iftar dinner celebrating the beginning of Ramadan tonight in the White house.

Maybe it will be bad luck for them since Friday the 13th comes on Friday this month.

Americans may be surprised to learn that the United States has been an active participant in mosque construction projects overseas. In April, U.S. Ambassador to Tanzania Alfonso E. Lenhardt helped cut the ribbon at the 12th-century Kizimkazi Mosque, which was refurbished with assistance from the United States under a program to preserve culturally significant buildings.

The U.S. government also helped save the Amr Ebn El Aas Mosque in Cairo, which dates back to 642. The mosque's namesake was the Muslim conqueror of Christian Egypt, who built the structure on the site where he had pitched his tent before doing battle with the country's Byzantine rulers. For those who think the Ground Zero Mosque is an example of "Muslim triumphalism" glorifying conquest, the Amr Ebn El Aas Mosque is an example of such a monument - and one paid for with U.S. taxpayer funds.

The mosques being rebuilt by the United States are used for religious worship, which raises important First Amendment questions. U.S. taxpayer money should not be used to preserve and promote Islam, even abroad. In July 2009, the Office of the Inspector General published an audit of U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) faith-based and community initiatives that examined whether government funds were being used for religious activities.

The auditors found that while USAID was funding some religious activities, officials were "uncertain of whether such uses of Agency funding violate Agency regulations or the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution" when balanced against foreign-policy objectives.

For example, our government rebuilt the Al Shuhada Mosque in Fallujah, Iraq, expecting such benefits as "stimulating the economy, enhancing a sense of pride in the community, reducing opposition to international relief organizations operating in Fallujah, and reducing incentives among young men to participate in violence or insurgent groups."

But Section 205.1(d) of title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations prohibits USAID funds from being used for the rehabilitation of structures to the extent that those structures are used for "inherently religious activities." It is impossible to separate religion from a mosque; any such projects will necessarily support Islam.

We have built or refurbished at least 83 mosques in Afghanistan.

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Some of the guests:

CABINET
Secretary Robert Gates, Department of Defense
Attorney General Eric Holder, Department of Justice
Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services

MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
Congressman Andre Carson (Indiana 7th)
Congressman John Conyers (Michigan 14th)
Congressman Keith Ellison (Minnesota 5th)
Congressman Rush Holt (New Jersey 12th)
Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

Among a very long list of muslim guests was an emisarry from the PLO, you,know, that group that assassinated a couple of our diplomats in the Sudan.

Barry keeps talking about the great contributions made by muslims to this country, this is the only contribution I can think of:

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#25
#25
If he does this I may jump on your bandwagons about Obama wanting to turn us into an Islamic state.

A US president meeting with Ahmadinejad would give him legitimacy in a country that over half feel should not be their leader. Obama would be effectively throwing away the people of Iran we want to get into power.
 

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