Obama White House seizes control of Census Bureau

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Can you say redistricting? Another power grab by the Little Dictator.

Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:22 AM

The Obama administration is ending the Census Bureau's traditional autonomy – a move that has Republicans outraged over the White House's politicization of counting Americans.

Last week, an administration official revealed that the yet-to-be-named director of the Census Bureau will report to the White House rather than Commerce Secretary nominee Judd Gregg, a Republican.

That prompted a blistering response from two key Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

"Any attempt by the Obama administration to circumvent the census process for their political benefit will be met with fierce opposition as this ill-conceived proposal undermines a constitutionally obligated process that speaks to the very heart of our democracy," California Rep. Darrell Issa wrote in a letter to President Barack Obama. The letter was co-signed by North Carolina Rep. Patrick McHenry.

"Requiring the census director to report directly to the White House and placing responsibility for administration of the Bureau outside the Department of Commerce may even violate federal law," the letter stated. "According to Title 13 of the U.S. Code, the Bureau is to be administered 'within, and under the jurisdiction of, the Department of Commerce.' According to U.S. Code, the Executive Branch is limited to providing support for the Bureau in the form of information and resources."
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White House Nabs Political Control over Census for 2012 Redistricting
 
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where are all the people who declared, "Obama will govern from the middle" now?

with the exception of a few token republicans in his cabinet (who will be lucky to make it to mid-term), nothing else he's done or said indicates he will be centrist in his policies.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Jimmy Carter will never look like anyone who talked about carrying a big stick.
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:eek:lol:

Jimmy a rough rider???



Jimmy couldn't run a donkey cart!!!











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Vol Mania 21 said:
obama is well on his way to being the worst pres. of all time
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:lolabove:

He's been in the job three weeks. Way too early to tell how good or bad he is going to be.

Fact is, most of YOU on this board were going to disagree with anything he did, whether it was right or wrong. You aren't nearly objective enough to provide any sort of qualified opinion
 
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truefan said:
:lolabove:

He's been in the job three weeks. Way too early to tell how good or bad he is going to be.

Fact is, most of YOU on this board were going to disagree with anything he did, whether it was right or wrong. You aren't nearly objective enough to provide any sort of qualified opinion
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OK. Since you're the centrist and clearly the objective one in the crowd, what has he done to date that has been even remotely (in the broadest sense of the word) centrist?
 
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truefan said:
:lolabove:

He's been in the job three weeks. Way too early to tell how good or bad he is going to be.

Fact is, most of YOU on this board were going to disagree with anything he did, whether it was right or wrong. You aren't nearly objective enough to provide any sort of qualified opinion
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ur right, 3 wks, and he hasn't done anything yet i'm guessing? you obviously haven't been paying attention. sorry i'm not a socialist and don't want a dictator
 
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truefan said:
:lolabove:

He's been in the job three weeks. Way too early to tell how good or bad he is going to be.

Fact is, most of YOU on this board were going to disagree with anything he did, whether it was right or wrong. You aren't nearly objective enough to provide any sort of qualified opinion
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Why does the White House need to be in control. All they need is the reports. Obama wants power that is not due to him.
We'll see what everyone thinks after he gets his 800 billion government spending bill passed and all those people that are holding their hads out don't get what they are expecting.
 
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he'll have acorn counting us. if they count they way register voters, we'll have 700 million citizens, 600 million will be democrats. welcome to the peoples republic if America.

truefan, you're not seeing forest because of obama's halo.
 
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volinbham said:
What possible justification have they offered?
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The move shifts the chain of command from the Commerce Secretary to the White House. It is being reported that he made this move in sort of a two-fold manner:

1) The Congressional Black Caucus, National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials and others expressed displeasure with Obama's nominee for Commerce secretary, Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire because he oppossed securing emergency funding for the 2000 Census, which they claim exposes a potential lack of commitment to ensuring that hard-to-reach minority populations are properly accounted for in the 2010 census.

2) One of his White House spokesman said "There is historic precedent for the director of the census, who works for the Commerce secretary and the president, to work closely with White House senior management -- given the number of decisions that will have to be put before the president. We plan to return to that model in this administration."

The problem, as House Republicans have expressed, is that the move could improperly influence legislative redistricting, which is shaped by Census counts because they fear the unnamed Census Bureau director will report to Rahm Emmanuel instead of Gregg, although from what I can tell they would still report to Gregg we just have no idea on what level. But, it does mean that he is most likely trying to meet the requests of the parties in #1. The real problem at the moment is that the direct relationship between the Bureau and the White House is hazy, and until such time that we really understand how it works we won't know if it is a power grab for redistricting purposes, or just his way of throwing a bone to minority leaders.
 
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TreeGreen said:
The move shifts the chain of command from the Commerce Secretary to the White House. It is being reported that he made this move in sort of a two-fold manner:

1) The Congressional Black Caucus, National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials and others expressed displeasure with Obama's nominee for Commerce secretary, Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire because he oppossed securing emergency funding for the 2000 Census, which they claim exposes a potential lack of commitment to ensuring that hard-to-reach minority populations are properly accounted for in the 2010 census.

2) One of his White House spokesman said "There is historic precedent for the director of the census, who works for the Commerce secretary and the president, to work closely with White House senior management -- given the number of decisions that will have to be put before the president. We plan to return to that model in this administration."

The problem, as House Republicans have expressed, is that the move could improperly influence legislative redistricting, which is shaped by Census counts because they fear the unnamed Census Bureau director will report to Rahm Emmanuel instead of Gregg. But, it does mean that he is most likely trying to meet the requests of the parties in #1. The real problem at the moment is that the direct relationship between the Bureau and the White House is hazy, and until such time that we really understand how it works we won't know if it is a power grab for redistricting purposes, or just his way of throwing a bone to minority leaders.
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Neither of these is a legit reason to make such a change. Both are political power grabs with one being much more direct.
 
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volinbham said:
Neither of these is a legit reason to make such a change. Both are political power grabs with one being much more direct.
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I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying that the "sky is falling" redistricting agenda may not even happen.
 
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I see some very messed up districts in our not so distant future :mad:. Not to say that we dont already have some but at least both parties played by the gerrymandering rules to get em that way
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Woodrow Wilson will always be the torch bearer for every thing awful about the presidency!
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:good!:

Coincidentally Slick Willy Clinton hailed Woodrow Wilson as our greatest president ever and another quirt of history; Bubba used a third party candidate to get in office, just as had the despicable Wilson.
 
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