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#306
hog88 said:
There will be some prosecutions, none of large players much like the Muells fiasco.
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No one really goes down for stuff like this. They're spying on the entire country yet we're so upset about this case. Why?
 
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#309
utvolpj said:
Because I watched the last one play out. It was political theater

The govt doesn't prosecute itself and for good reason
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They are always theater now, with no regard to the relative guilt or innocence of the parties at the top of the plot.

Worst case, someone who was taking orders has to step up and claim President Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Cheney/Obama/Trump had no knowledge of the nefarious plots I personally instigated.

See Libby, Scooter; North, Oliver; et al.
 
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hog88 said:
I think the corruption went deep within the Obama administration, it will never be fully exposed because the machine is designed to protect itself.
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Corruption doesn't get exposed because 80 percent of the public which pays attention goes deaf, dumb, and blind to corruption when their flavor of crook gets the reins of government, and the other 20 percent which pay attention are a feckless minority.

Also, most people don't pay attention.
 
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Rifleman said:
Corruption doesn't get exposed because 80 percent of the public which pays attention goes deaf, dumb, and blind to corruption when their flavor of crook gets the reins of government, and the other 20 percent which pay attention are a feckless minority.

Also, most people don't pay attention.
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Agreed.
 
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Rifleman said:
They are always theater now, with no regard to the relative guilt or innocence of the parties at the top of the plot.

Worst case, someone who was taking orders has to step up and claim President Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Cheney/Obama/Trump had no knowledge of the nefarious plots I personally instigated.

See Libby, Scooter; North, Oliver; et al.
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Durham was appointed over a year ago and well before election season, so the opinion that this is an election season sham is ridiculous.

Someone may take a bullet, but that would imply that it did go higher up chain of command.
 
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Trumpsters forget the REASON for surveillance of guys like Manafort or Flynn. Its because they were compromised by foreign agents. This is well established fact.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trumpsters forget the REASON for surveillance of guys like Manafort or Flynn. Its because they were compromised by foreign agents. This is well established fact.
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So established of a fact that they were charged and convicted.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Durham was appointed over a year ago and well before election season, so the opinion that this is an election season sham is ridiculous.

Someone may take a bullet, but that would imply that it did go higher up chain of command.
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Your crooks are investigating their crooks to keep their crooks from being able to investigate your crooks.

Nothing more.
 
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utvolpj said:
Cool. Still won't mean anything and will be forgotten by February

This is all about the election
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The left spent 4 years giving him the fodder to use now . If we hit up one side , let’s hit up the stupid on the other .
 
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0nelilreb said:
The left spent 4 years giving him the fodder to use now . If we hit up one side , let’s hit up the stupid on the other .
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Might as well. Especially in this dark time. If people don't have bread, then the circuses better be pretty damned good.
 
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utvolpj said:
Clearly that helps to solve the issues we're facing now. Solid plan
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Like you said , it’s an election year . Right now everyone knows he wants the country back up and running , that’s the whole argument . I think his plan for now is to let the red states open and the blue state governors keep lock down going . If there’s no high death count from opening up that puts pressure on those states he needs votes from . ( Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania , Ohio) IMO .. that’s the plan and he will tweek it where he needs to .
The left has no plan going forward yet except wait for a vaccine .
 
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utvolpj said:
Clearly that helps to solve the issues we're facing now. Solid plan
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I don't believe that ultimately, either party or it's members, on both sides, even the "good" ones, or seemingly "good" ones, give a flying frick about much more than the existence of the King's kingdom that is all of D.C......or have a plan.... really for that matter from either LOL.

I don't want to believe it, and truly wish genuine and sincere were motive and present, but, hard to think so with the sideshow that is played out 24 hours a day week after week, month after month, year after year....sad.
 
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tennvols77 said:
I don't believe that ultimately, either party or it's members, on both sides, even the "good" ones, or seemingly "good" ones, give a flying frick about much more than the existence of the King's kingdom that is all of D.C......or have a plan.... really for that matter from either LOL.

I don't want to believe it, and truly wish genuine and sincere were motive and present, but, hard to think so with the sideshow that is played out 24 hours a day week after week, month after month, year after year....sad.
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Den of vipers , every last one of them . Except Dan Crenshaw I believe him for some reason ( in all fairness .. it could just be the eye patch )
 
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Rifleman said:
Your crooks are investigating their crooks to keep their crooks from being able to investigate your crooks.

Nothing more.
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Willing to make a bet there are no indictments?
Durham is a US Attorney. The Senate subpoenas are just political theatre.
 
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utvolpj said:
Trump knows he doesn't need to actually expose anything. He just needs to convince the base he's trying until after the election. It's the newest version of "lock her up" that worked so well last time
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Just curious, did Obama enact all the ******** he promised during his campaigns? And if he didn't, did he receive the same kind of scrutiny that Mr Trump has? (That's rhetorical, because we all know the answer) But the interesting thing is that Mr Trump's promise of building a wall would serve to protect Americans and legal immigrants whereas the leftists want to protect the ILLegal immigrants to the detriment of those that played by the rules. Zero's policies strove to take money out of the pockets of hard working Americans and GIVE it to those that do not work via his money grab disguised as healthcare. Yeah 'lock her up' was red meat, but I highly doubt anybody that voted for Mr Trump really worries about that particular promise not being realized.
 
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