Obama's chances of winning D/N just reduced.

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How does getting a backing from a Kennedy reduce his chances of getting the D nomination?
 
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I don't like Ted Kennedy but people in the northeast do, especially in Ted's state that Hillary leads in. Republicans aren't voting for Barrack anyways so I don't see how this hurts and it actually helps in that region. Now, if he could get Al Gore's endorsement and convince John Edwards to give up he would beat Hillary. I have always heard that Al Gore and Hillary hate each other going back to their days in the White House. I don't think Gore is endorsing anyone and I don't know what Edwards is thinking but I have to believe more people would go to Obama than Hillary if he quit running.
 
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jkell24 said:
Now, if he could get Al Gore's endorsement and convince John Edwards to give up he would beat Hillary.
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I don't know that a Gore endorsement would matter, but I agree about Edwards. John Edwards is not going to win the nomination, but he effectively is going to be able to choose the nominee based on how long he stays in the race.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't know that a Gore endorsement would matter, but I agree about Edwards. John Edwards is not going to win the nomination, but he effectively is going to be able to choose the nominee based on how long he stays in the race.
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GaVol, I assume what you're saying is that him staying in the race helps Obama, correct, as he takes white votes from Clinton?
 
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TennNC said:
GaVol, I assume what you're saying is that him staying in the race helps Obama, correct, as he takes white votes from Clinton?
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I think actually his staying in hurts Obama. When he exits I believe Obama will get the larger share of his voters. GA can correct me if I am wrong.
 
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I agree with those who feel that the majority of Edwards voters will break for Obama if Edwards pulls out. I'd estimate something in the 60% range. I do think a lot of the women voters for Edwards would gravtiate more towards Clinton, however.

Thing is, Edwards isn't going to get out until at least February 6, meaning that at that point he will control perhaps 200 delegates or so. And if that happens, someone is going to have to offer him a VP slot in order to get him to offer up his delegates at the convention. This is in part why I think you see both Clinton and Obama not attacking him -- its in case they have to bring him into the fold down the road.

If things stay like they are now, it is entirely possible that neither will hve the nomination locked up heading to the convention. What will be interesting is whether Florida delegates -- who right now don't count because they moved our primary up and pissed off the party -- will somehow come back into play.
 
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TennNC said:
GaVol, I assume what you're saying is that him staying in the race helps Obama, correct, as he takes white votes from Clinton?
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I think it's just the opposite. I think most Edwards supporters would break for Obama.
 
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GAVol said:
I think it's just the opposite. I think most Edwards supporters would break for Obama.
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I agree also because Hillary is the candidate people either love or hate. If they are still backing Edwards at this point than they probably don't fall in the love catergory.
 
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Hillary should send a thank you note to Ted today after the Florida victory.
 
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I was thinking the same thing, I wouldn't allow Kennedy's endorsement if I owned a bar, much less was running for prez
 
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GAVol said:
I think it's just the opposite. I think most Edwards supporters would break for Obama.
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Looks like it's not just the opposite:

Four in 10 Edwards supporters said their second choice in the race is Clinton, while a quarter prefer Obama, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo poll conducted late this month.
 
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TennNC said:
Looks like it's not just the opposite:

Four in 10 Edwards supporters said their second choice in the race is Clinton, while a quarter prefer Obama, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo poll conducted late this month.
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This is kind of what I am thinking. It seems like there is a part of the democratic base that was supporting Edwards that would better align with Clinton - but I don't really have any data like you present to back the up...just more of a feeling.
 
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