Obama's Second Oath

[therealUT]

woah, you mean parents spend time with their kids? no way, i thought it was a teachers job to raise them...

In my opinion, it is not even the teachers' job to teach them, yet alone them. Parents should be the primary educators and teachers are their to facilitate that education. Somewhere along the way, that dichotomy has completely reversed itself.

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

In my opinion, it is not even the teachers' job to teach them, yet alone them. Parents should be the primary educators and teachers are their to facilitate that education. Somewhere along the way, that dichotomy has completely reversed itself.

if you have dealt with some of the parents that i have dealt with, you will change your mind on them, educating their kids. I have one that thinks the government is out to get him etc etc etc, thats a good way to get a little unabomber

 

[therealUT]

if you have dealt with some of the parents that i have dealt with, you will change your mind on them, educating their kids. I have one that thinks the government is out to get him etc etc etc, thats a good way to get a little unabomber

If the parents are not concerned with educating their children, then I am not either. We need ignorant and uneducated cogs for our system to work. If dead beat parents are willing to provide their children for such a task, kudos!

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

If the parents are not concerned with educating their children, then I am not either. We need ignorant and uneducated cogs for our system to work. If dead beat parents are willing to provide their children for such a task, kudos!

thats a pretty cynical look at things, if you dont mind me asking, what do you do for a living, and do you have kids?

 

[therealUT]

thats a pretty cynical look at things, if you dont mind me asking, what do you do for a living, and do you have kids?

I am an Infantry Officer. I have an accounting degree and will go back to school for my MBA in either 2010 / 2011 (depending upon which course BHO decides to take in Iraq).

I do not have kids. I am the product of a working father and a working mother. They sacrificed their off time to educate myself and my three siblings. We were allowed 1 TV show (or game) to watch during the week. We were required to read a book, of their choosing, every month. Every summer my parents brought home math and science workbooks for my siblings and I. We had homework that was due everynight to my parents when they returned home from work.

I was also involved in at least 1 sport (most of the time 2) every single season of the year. There were many days growing up when I absolutely loathed my parents. I knew how much free time my friends had. I knew that the demands on them were not half as much as the demands from my parents. It was not until about my third year of college that I realized the gift my parents had given me and the amount of time and effort they put into that gift.

Feel free to call me cynical. I could care less if parents want to be "kind" to their children. I won't be and my kids will be better off for it.

And, always remember, "There is always enough time. It is the will that is lacking."

 

[KB5252]

I am an Infantry Officer. I have an accounting degree and will go back to school for my MBA in either 2010 / 2011 (depending upon which course BHO decides to take in Iraq).

I do not have kids. I am the product of a working father and a working mother. They sacrificed their off time to educate myself and my three siblings. We were allowed 1 TV show (or game) to watch during the week. We were required to read a book, of their choosing, every month. Every summer my parents brought home math and science workbooks for my siblings and I. We had homework that was due everynight to my parents when they returned home from work.

I was also involved in at least 1 sport (most of the time 2) every single season of the year. There were many days growing up when I absolutely loathed my parents. I knew how much free time my friends had. I knew that the demands on them were not half as much as the demands from my parents. It was not until about my third year of college that I realized the gift my parents had given me and the amount of time and effort they put into that gift.

Feel free to call me cynical. I could care less if parents want to be "kind" to their children. I won't be and my kids will be better off for it.

And, always remember, "There is always enough time. It is the will that is lacking."

Good to know where your perspective comes from.

I on the flip side was the product of a single parent household, my mother worked long hours to provide for us. I was left with way too much free time because of this. By the time I was in high school I was mixed up in everything I shouldn't have been.
I never graduated from high school. I simply quit going when i was 16. Before the age of twenty I was in trouble with the law and I stayed that way until I was in my late twenties. It was hard to find work and get ahead, but when i straightened up I managed.
I guess there is something to be said for strict parental control instead of trying to be your kids friends.

On a side note my stepson will be the first in our family to get a college education (save my father who went to Belmont, I did not see him much as a kid), he will be going to MTSU next year. My wife and I used the example of our struggling to drive the importance of education home to him.