Official Jon Gruden Thread 37

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Break it up, girls.

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Doubtful Kathy said:
Biggest one I have, is him showing up for the job because its not going to happen. Move on Vol fans! Lets talk about some real candidates. there are some pretty good mid majors we should be discussing
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UT is a MAJOR university with a major football program, as belied by the amount of $$$ flowing from the vaults each year to pay coaching salaries, recruiting trips, etc. UT does not deserve a midlevel up-and-comer, but rather a proven Power 5 coach with head coaching experience. Granted, Currie and Company are going to have to up the HC, OC, DC, and AC salaries substantially if they want our program to truly compete with the likes of BAMA, Auburn, Clemson, Ohio State, Michigan, Florida State, Stanford, USC, and other major programs for quality of coaches and recruits... but I believe those discussions have already taken place. If they haven't... then you are absolutely correct - we should set our sights on the likes of a coach of the caliber of someone like... say... Tony Petersen. :popcorn:
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
Twenty twenty twenty four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothing to do, no where to go o,
I wanna be sedated
Just get me to the airport, put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry, before I go insane
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my brain
Oh no oh oh oh oh
Twenty twenty twenty four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothing to do, no where to go o,
I wanna be sedated
Just put me in a wheelchair, get me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry, before I go insane
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my brain
Oh no oh oh oh oh
Twenty twenty twenty four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothing to do, no where to go o,
I wanna be sedated
Just put me in a wheelchair, get me to the show
Hurry hurry hurry, before I go loco
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my toes
Oh no oh oh oh oh
Twenty twenty twenty four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothing to do, no where to go o,
I wanna be sedated
Just put me in a wheelchair, get me to the show
Hurry hurry hurry, before I go loco
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my toes
Oh no oh oh oh oh
Ba ba baba, baba ba baba, I wanna be sedated
Ba ba baba, baba ba baba, I wanna be sedated
Ba ba baba, baba ba baba, I wanna be sedated
Ba ba baba, baba ba baba, I wanna be sedated
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Two more hours until I can start to sedate myself! Can anyone recommend a nice bourbon, modestly priced to try this evening?
 
#2,491
#2,491
As they should. Gruden has become this mythical "home run hire" / savior but in actuality, he's really a 2nd or 3rd tier hire. I'd much rather have Fuente, Frost, or Mullen before Gruden.

Gruden is a great X's and O's coach, but a "Head Coach" in the college game is more like a CEO. College is more about talent development than X's and O's; not that X's and O's don't matter, but it matters less than in the NFL. Gruden's system was already tried at Nebraska under Bill Callahan and it failed miserably. While Gruden is a better coach than Callahan, part of Callahan's problem was always that his offense was too complex for the college game. Gruden would deal with the same issue.

I'm not saying that Gruden couldn't succeed. He's a smart guy and he'd be able to recruit top 10 classes routinely. I'm just saying that there's no real reason to believe that he's a better coach than someone like Scott Frost or Dan Mullen in the college game. As an NFL coach, yes, I'd take Gruden in a heartbeat over those guys, but not as a college coach. And the track record of NFL coaches in college is almost as bad as the track record as college coaches in the NFL. Jim Mora, Bill Callahan, Dave Wannstadt, Mike Sherman, Lovie Smith --- so many more NFL to college failures than success stories. Pete Carroll was the exception.
 
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KB5252 said:
Two more hours until I can start to sedate myself! Can anyone recommend a nice bourbon, modestly priced to try this evening?
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Can never go wrong with Blanton's--spectacular bourbon. Also, it's a bit on the pricer side, but Woodford Reserve Double Oaked Single Barrel is another one I highly recommend.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
As they should. Gruden has become this mythical "home run hire" / savior but in actuality, he's really a 2nd or 3rd tier hire. I'd much rather have Fuente, Frost, or Mullen before Gruden.

Gruden is a great X's and O's coach, but a "Head Coach" in the college game is more like a CEO. College is more about talent development than X's and O's; not that X's and O's don't matter, but it matters less than in the NFL. Gruden's system was already tried at Nebraska under Bill Callahan and it failed miserably. While Gruden is a better coach than Callahan, part of Callahan's problem was always that his offense was too complex for the college game. Gruden would deal with the same issue.

I'm not saying that Gruden couldn't succeed. He's a smart guy and he'd be able to recruit top 10 classes routinely. I'm just saying that there's no real reason to believe that he's a better coach than someone like Scott Frost or Dan Mullen in the college game. As an NFL coach, yes, I'd take Gruden in a heartbeat over those guys, but not as a college coach. And the track record of NFL coaches in college is almost as bad as the track record as college coaches in the NFL. Jim Mora, Bill Callahan, Dave Wannstadt, Mike Sherman, Lovie Smith --- so many more NFL to college failures than success stories. Pete Carroll was the exception.
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Preach.
 
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