Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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To all of those who want to know what is going on with the "insiders", let the big boys talk, I know you want to hear every word of it, but be thankful for what they post already. They will share what they can with the folks at the children's table, just be thankful for what we already know.

:eek:lol: at your hubris
 
Just an FYI one of TOS is saying that somewhat of a deal has been in place/a verbal commitment has been made in the last 48 hours. TOS is essentially the one that first started this Gruden talk if I remember correctly, and they also have several insiders. I know some of the insiders here post on that one, and the posters over there seem much more positive that Gruden is coming. Just thought it was interesting.
Complete BS.
 
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Without Peyton, does he have the same record?

The same could be said about Holmgren at GB. Nothing operates in a vacuum. You can only go on what happened, not hypotheticals.

Of course we all know how important Manning was to that team, but we have no way of knowing what would have happened otherwise. Dungy would have had entirely different personnel if Manning was never there.

The fact is, Super Bowls are never guaranteed. When you get to the playoffs, you have to coach the games and win the games.

Just look at GB last year. They were clearly the best team in the NFL, but still managed to screw it up.
 
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