Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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Ok...another rumor, maybe legit...who knows. A coworker claims his wife grew up with Jon's wife, Cindy, and her family. According to my coworker, the gossip between the 2 women is that things are definitely happening and Gruden is looking at an offer to make him the highest paid coach in the NCAA.
 
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Hyperion said:
I see some saying that the NFL is more attractive, but why?

He's already won a Super Bowl. That mountain has been climbed. He also has limited say in the NFL. He will be at the mercy of his front office. Success is fleeting at that level no matter how talented a coach you are.

Whereas the alternative is to come to UT, which plays in the SEC, the premier power conference and most cutthroat in college football. He can basically run the program how he desires and recruit who he wants to.The long-term job security prospects are far superior to the NFL. The possibility of winning big at the college level does much more to add to his coaching legacy than being in the NFL again.

More importantly he would have much more control over his success here than he would in Cleveland.

We've seen Pete Carroll coach in the NFL and go to college and win big. We've seen Nick Saban do the same. I think coaching the Vols is far more rewarding than going to the NFL.
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spent to long typing this and missed SBV's post lol
 
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SBV, I tend to believe you, but could you give us an idea of your source?

Obviously, you can't give us a name, but just something to legitimize the claim?
 
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MWAVolfan said:
The starting point of my view on this is that Gruden is a seasoned NFL head coach with a super bowl ring. How many guys go from that to the NCAA, no matter which program it is.

Any coach would agree that the NFL is a step up (if you're good enough to hack it, unlike say Steve Spurrier). The goal is to advance your career and take on the biggest challenge, which is always going to be in the big boy league.

To me, this makes it easier to believe that if 3 or 4 NFL teams wanted Gruden, then he would prefer that over any college team, not just UT.

You can say "if he wanted an NFL job he would have had one by now". But you can also say "if he wanted the UT job, he had two chances already to take it."

Not trying to be a downer, just offering up where my perspective comes from when I read all this stuff.
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If you're going to make statements then try to support them with facts instead of wailing on people on a message board because you can't understand that other peoples views towards and mindset about the world may be different than yours. Especially driven, successful people like Gruden. If a person sleeps 4hrs a night to wake-up at 3am I'd be willing to bet they view things a bit differently than the avg. joe's.

1. Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns and purchased them with his own money. Big Jim, the man that played at UT under Neyland, has no ownership or part of the Browns outside of a father-son advisory relationship (and the relationship is just an assumption at that).

2. A lot of NFL coaches have gone to college and vice-versa. I.E. Bill Walsh coached Stanford after the niners. Bill O'Brien @ PSU from the Patriots. Weiss to ND. Pete Carroll to USC. Jim Mora to UCLA. Devine from the Steelers to ND. Butch Davis went from NFL to college back to NFL back to college.

3. "If he wanted UT job he could of had it" Maybe so or maybe Hamilton wasn't willing to pay Gruden what he wanted. It has been well documented that when it came to hiring coaches Hamilton was cheap.

Saban has changed the landscape and viewpoint of a college football coach. College vs NFL HC job is no longer seen as inferior as it once was, at least not if you're coaching a major program like TN, Bama, UF, USC, Texas, etc. There is no shame in JG taking the TN job and we'd just make him an even richer man and kiss his ass while doing it.
 
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I don't doubt SBV, or any of the others in the know, but it would be nice to know something more. I mean just two minutes ago we had DTO saying he hadn't heard a dang thing today............so which is it? Are we talking imminent news or timeline still the same? DTO - hearing something now?

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Confused Grudenite
 
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Hyperion said:
I see some saying that the NFL is more attractive, but why?

He's already won a Super Bowl. That mountain has been climbed. He also has limited say in the NFL. He will be at the mercy of his front office. Success is fleeting at that level no matter how talented a coach you are.

Whereas the alternative is to come to UT, which plays in the SEC, the premier power conference and most cutthroat in college football. He can basically run the program how he desires and recruit who he wants to.The long-term job security prospects are far superior to the NFL. The possibility of winning big at the college level does much more to add to his coaching legacy than being in the NFL again.

More importantly he would have much more control over his success here than he would in Cleveland.

We've seen Pete Carroll coach in the NFL and go to college and win big. We've seen Nick Saban do the same. From Gruden's perspective- reviving and coaching the Vols is far more rewarding and has much more potential than going to the NFL.
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PermaVol said:
If you're going to make statements then try to support them with facts instead of wailing on people on a message board because you can't understand that other peoples views towards and mindset about the world may be different than yours. Especially driven, successful people like Gruden. If a person sleeps 4hrs a night to wake-up at 3am I'd be willing to bet they view things a bit differently than the avg. joe's.

1. Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns and purchased them with his own money. Big Jim, the man that played at UT under Neyland, has no ownership or part of the Browns outside of a father-son advisory relationship (and the relationship is just an assumption at that).

2. A lot of NFL coaches have gone to college and vice-versa. I.E. Bill Walsh coached Stanford after the niners. Bill O'Brien @ PSU from the Patriots. Weiss to ND. Pete Carroll to USC. Jim Mora to UCLA. Devine from the Steelers to ND. Butch Davis went from NFL to college back to NFL back to college.

3. "If he wanted UT job he could of had it" Maybe so or maybe Hamilton wasn't willing to pay Gruden what he wanted. It has been well documented that when it came to hiring coaches Hamilton was cheap.

Saban has changed the landscape and viewpoint of a college football coach. College vs NFL HC job is no longer seen as inferior as it once was, at least not if you're coaching a major program like TN, Bama, UF, USC, Texas, etc. There is no shame in JG taking the TN job and we'd just make him an even richer man and kiss his ass while doing it.
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I dont want any sources, I will hang on to any shred of hope even if it's a pipe dream. I try to ignore the reality of where this program is so I choose believe to Gruden is done deal and it doesnt even matter who posts it or where they hear it from. I will hang on to anything that will give me hope that this mess is over.Seriously, anything.
 
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