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I believe I remember a crew once screwed up several games and was fined or was curbed on how many games they called several years ago. Not sure if it was NCAA or NFL group.
 
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Some friends and I were discussing the possibility of under the radar betting by officials in games by "helping" or "hurting" teams. It seems everyone focuses on players or coaches betting. If you look back several years it seems games other than Tennessee have been getting some head scratching calls.
 
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Deadpooh72 said:
I believe I remember a crew once screwed up several games and was fined or was curbed on how many games they called several years ago. Not sure if it was NCAA or NFL group.
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I think it was an SEC crew and if I recall correctly they were suspended for a few games and were excluded from calling a bowl game too.
 
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aRmo said:
This fan base has either scorned the officials or the Union they work for. We havent gotten favorable calls all year.
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IMO the SEC is in panic mode that they will miss the final 4 playoffs, the games that Sankey and Co. control the mandate there will be no losses to UGA & Alabama until one loser in the SECC a lot of money on the line. refs tow the line yes you will get bonuses for finding obscure rules and skipping over the ticky tack on the usual suspects always following the narrative. (LSU 2 loss teams)would have to score on every possession and they might be holding flag on some it can be called and rationalized even if it was ticky tack. So after the SECC I expect a undefeated UGA barely making playoff because of schedule strength or a 1 loss Alabama beating UGA making it in due to a better schedule and/if there are not 4 undefeated team which I don't believe there will be.
And you are right we are leading the league in penalties.
 
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We see a heck of a lot of stats and grades for players and teams, it would seem logical that similar stats/grades by the SEC Officiating Crews should be provided. Some transparency by the head of Officiating is needed to understand what is really going on. After all the coaches can't say anything... (pause) "next question." Go Vols!
 
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1973Vol said:
We see a heck of a lot of stats and grades for players and teams, it would seem logical that similar stats/grades by the SEC Officiating Crews should be provided. Some transparency by the head of Officiating is needed to understand what is really going on. After all the coaches can't say anything... (pause) "next question." Go Vols!
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Officiating P5 D1 football needs to be a Full time job with high pay, the money is there. The Officials as they climb the ladder need to be graded and vetted before they are hired for P%5 big money. There needs to be transparency about your favorite team and teams you pull for. None of these guys get into this because of anything but the love of the game. They have teams that influence their decision most are hardcore fans of certain teams. There's enough 50/50 calls you can call either way (penalty or ignore) to steer the game the way you want. I have a friend that refs, not in SEC but he said it didn't bother him to make a bad call un-intentionally. He said 50% of the ppl will love it on TV and you probably pissing off a big% of home crowd if you do it there. Doesn't watch replays because it gets in his head. You move on because everybody's pissed then their life happens and then its next week all gone and forgiven.
 
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Deadpooh72 said:
I believe I remember a crew once screwed up several games and was fined or was curbed on how many games they called several years ago. Not sure if it was NCAA or NFL group.
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There was an SEC crew several years ago that worked a game between Arkansas and Florida in the Swamp. Practically every penalty went against Arkansas and the obvious no-calls all seemed to benefit the Gators, and there was a big stink about it. Could that be the game you're thinking about? I think it also could have been during the Tim Tebow/Urban Meyer era in Gainesville.
 
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I personally feel the officiating in the SEC definitely struggles but stop short of conspiracy or betting etc as the problem. I clearly think calls are slated toward the power teams in this conference but feel it’s more a subconscious thing. JMO. I recently talked with a long time SEC official who’s now retired. I’ve known him many years and find him to be a man of impeccable character and integrity. He did, however, say he never cared for the Vols but it never swayed his judgment. I didn’t challenge him on it but can’t really reconcile in my mind how it COULD NOT have affected his judgment subconsciously. He grew up in Arkansas and said he’d always pulled for the Hogs. I’m not sure the answer to the problem but clearly there are issues. JMO.
 
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tennrich1 said:
I personally feel the officiating in the SEC definitely struggles but stop short of conspiracy or betting etc as the problem. I clearly think calls are slated toward the power teams in this conference but feel it’s more a subconscious thing. JMO. I recently talked with a long time SEC official who’s now retired. I’ve known him many years and find him to be a man of impeccable character and integrity. He did, however, say he never cared for the Vols but it never swayed his judgment. I didn’t challenge him on it but can’t really reconcile in my mind how it COULD NOT have affected his judgment subconsciously. He grew up in Arkansas and said he’d always pulled for the Hogs. I’m not sure the answer to the problem but clearly there are issues. JMO.
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This very well may be all it is. But it isn't conspiracy to think there is bias in the calls as the game is going on. Even if it is unintentional, it is still there. The fact that the SEC offices are in Birmingham, and there is very deep rooted hate for UT, Fulmer, etc...it is concerning. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy with Birmingham, I'm saying that there is an unconscious bias at play in an office that is deep in the heart of Bama country.
 
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rjd970 said:
This very well may be all it is. But it isn't conspiracy to think there is bias in the calls as the game is going on. Even if it is unintentional, it is still there. The fact that the SEC offices are in Birmingham, and there is very deep rooted hate for UT, Fulmer, etc...it is concerning. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy with Birmingham, I'm saying that there is an unconscious bias at play in an office that is deep in the heart of Bama country.
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Someone said it best on here a while ago: even if you aren't a fan of Alabama, if you work for the SEC you live in Birmingham. You go to the store and see Bama fans. Your friends and network are Bama fans. Your fellow church members, soccer parents, the guy that mows your yard. You're naturally inclined to make decisions a certain way because you are surrounded by one crew.

The SEC offices need to GTFO out Birmingham. Ideally, they'd be somewhere like Charlotte or Richmond or DC in the interest of extreme neutrality.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Someone said it best on here a while ago: even if you aren't a fan of Alabama, if you work for the SEC you live in Birmingham. You go to the store and see Bama fans. Your friends and network are Bama fans. Your fellow church members, soccer parents, the guy that mows your yard. You're naturally inclined to make decisions a certain way because you are surrounded by one crew.

The SEC offices need to GTFO out Birmingham. Ideally, they'd be somewhere like Charlotte or Richmond or DC in the interest of extreme neutrality.
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I think the SEC office needs to stay within the footprint of the SEC but still needs to be out of Birmingham. Nashville or Atlanta would work, with so many transplants in those cities team x fanbase wouldn't be in your face at every turn.
 
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hog88 said:
I think the SEC office needs to stay within the footprint of the SEC but still needs to be out of Birmingham. Nashville or Atlanta would work, with so many transplants in those cities team x fanbase wouldn't be in your face at every turn.
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In general Nashville or Atlanta would be ideal, but you'd still end up with someone complaining.
 
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