Offshoring a business

In my opinion

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#26
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MystifyingVol said:
Would you have to get rid of all of them? There are a certain percentage of those 104 that are low performers. That is the number you swap.

I can understand your distress, I've been on this side of the table for a good portion of my career. Sitting on your side, knowing those people, I would be struggling too.
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manager has a 14 year old in high school, assistant manager has a 7 year old (or somewhere around that) so I doubt either would move. 3 of my staff might say yes because they like adventures but I've honestly never even hinted the idea to anyone there due to obvious reasons.
 
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VOLatile said:
I don't think the government is creating an anti-business atmosphere and especially not targeting small businesses.
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That's weird. Maybe not "targeting" them, but when bailout money, and stimulus money tends to go to the big guys, that puts the little guys at a disadvantage.

Amazon is moving to Texas because Texas will give them huge tax breaks. Texas wouldn't give a little e-store those kind of tax breaks. Also, the bigger you are, the less % of your budget you have to dedicate to complying with regulation. It's not a level playing field.

If you said you're not willing to move abroad you are basically saying you'd rather lose your business than go elsewhere.
 
#30
#30
I've seen a lot of my area offshored to India (computer programming). I don't think its inherently wrong but I've argued that it isn't cost effective as the managers think it is. The quality of the programming is absolutely inferior to in-house programmers plus it is more difficult to check.

The programming that is being outsourced is crucial to the business (clinical trials data in a research pharma company) and all it would take is one bad screw-up in an adverse event reporting program to bring the company to its knees. The chance of this 'black swan' event happening convinces me that the company should have complete control over the programming.
 
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VOLatile said:
I don't think the government is creating an anti-business atmosphere and especially not targeting small businesses.
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I am in business and have worked with the EPA pre-Obama. It was anti-business then. OSHA and EPA have been very active since Obama took office and are VERY antagonistic.

Cost of compliance has gone up across the board on every regulated industry... which is pretty much all of them.

Regulation except in the relatively few cases where exceptions are granted disproportionately hurts small businesses/start ups trying to grow. It is a drag on innovation AND competition for larger businesses.
 
#32
#32
NEO, you have a chance to shrug. Imagine if the majority of the small business owners did it all at the same time.
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#33
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NEOCON said:
Can't PM yet, can we?

But my question is ethical, not as much how to.

Does it bother you at all pulling jobs from here and shipping them elsewhere.

Or do you feel the people there take the job more serious and it means more to them so it doesn't bother you?
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Ethically, people are people. American people are not better than foreign people. But I am not a patriot, so who am I to say. The human beings in Manilla need jobs as much as the human beings in Detroit.

The way I see it, your job is to earn the largest profit you can without cheating people. That money will work its way back into the economy, its not like you are gonna put it under your mattress. That will drive employment opportunities. Plus, you will pay less taxes, even if that is only on SS tax. Any way to give less money to Washington is a win as far as I am concerned. That means a more productive use of that money as you reinvest it or spend it.

I deal with programmers in India fairly regularly and once you get past the language barriers, they do good work and work much longer hours than the programmers in South Carolina I deal with. FWIW
 
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I dealt with someone from a car insurance claims adjustment agency today from South Carolina. I might as well have been talking to someone from India or Malaysia. I don't understand how people in the US that are hired for communications jobs can't even speak proper English.
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VOLatile said:
I dealt with someone from a car insurance claims adjustment agency today from South Carolina. I might as well have been talking to someone from India or Malaysia. I don't understand how people in the US that are hired for communications jobs can't even speak proper English.
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I thought most of the communication impaired people answered the phones for Dominoes and work at the drive through at Burger King... :p
 
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