Ohio State #2 thats a joke right?!

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#28
kptvol said:
I can't see Michigan State being as good as Illinois was last year. I don't see how Illinois won't decline, either.
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Michigan State is basically the exact same in my metrics that called for Illinois to surprise last year.

MSU was good, statistically, in B10 play, lost a bunch of close games, and return the best running back in the conference.
 
#29
#29
VolinArizona said:
Wisconsin will go with Evridge. PSU will go with Devlin, IMO.
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Evridge is the guy from K State, right? Seems like I read somewhere he didn't really distinguish himself from the other QB in the competition. His name escapes me.
 
#31
#31
VolinArizona said:
Michigan State is basically the exact same in my metrics that called for Illinois to surprise last year.

MSU was good, statistically, in B10 play, lost a bunch of close games, and return the best running back in the conference.
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Ringer is pretty good. Do you think he's better than Chris Wells and PJ Hill?
 
#33
#33
droski said:
if i recall correctly SC hasn't lost to a nonconference opponent in LA since carroll got there.
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firsts happen every year and he hasn't played much OOC competition in LA.

I don't think OSU can win, but I don't believe USC trounces them either.
 
#34
#34
kptvol said:
Ringer is pretty good. Do you think he's better than Chris Wells and PJ Hill?
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Ringer demolishes Hill, but he and Wells are very very close.

Ringer had more ypc than Wells behind a far far far worse OL, but Wells was only a SO.
 
#35
#35
VolinArizona said:
Ringer demolishes Hill, but he and Wells are very very close.

Ringer had more ypc than Wells behind a far far far worse OL, but Wells was only a SO.
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I dunno. Ringer has had only one good year. Was there some other great MSU RB that kept him on the bench? Hill has been pretty solid his entire career, except toward the end of his sophomore year when he was injured.
 
#36
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Ringer had an injury in 2006, and John L. Smith didn't give him enough carries in 2005. Ringer averages almost an entire 1 more per carry than Hill.

With offensive lines worse than what Wisconsin puts out there.
 
#37
#37
BigPapaVol said:
firsts happen every year and he hasn't played much OOC competition in LA.
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I was glancing over Southern Cal's OOC home slate since Carroll's been there and they have lost 1 regular season OOC game in LA during his tenure. Game #2 as a head coach they lost to Kansas State. And their home OOC schedule has included the following teams:

Kansas State
San Jose State
Auburn
Notre Dame (a couple of times)
Brigham Young
Hawaii
Colorado State
Arkansas
Fresno State
Nebraska
Idaho

Not a bad list of opponents. Could be better, but not bad by any means.
 
#38
#38
And for the record, I will be pretty impressed if OSU gets by Southern Cal in LA. Should that happen, I believe there's a good chance they go undefeated through the regular season.
 
#39
#39
salutethehill said:
I was glancing over Southern Cal's OOC home slate since Carroll's been there and they have lost 1 regular season OOC game in LA during his tenure. Game #2 as a head coach they lost to Kansas State. And their home OOC schedule has included the following teams:

Kansas State
San Jose State
Auburn
Notre Dame (a couple of times)
Brigham Young
Hawaii
Colorado State
Arkansas
Fresno State
Nebraska
Idaho

Not a bad list of opponents. Could be better, but not bad by any means.
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the list of names sounds decent, but the actual teams absolutely sucked. Arky was probably the best team on the list and they were essentially playing without a QB.
 
#40
#40
BigPapaVol said:
the list of names sounds decent, but the actual teams absolutely sucked. Arky was probably the best team on the list and they were essentially playing without a QB.
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That Auburn team was really talented. It's not Carroll's fault they decided to suck for a year for no apparent reason.
 
#42
#42
Vercingetorix said:
This was supposed to be Ohio State's big year anyway, not last year. The Big 10 should suck even more than usual this year, so OSU has an excellent shot to go through the league undefeated. Everything for them depends on the game at USC; win that, and the path back to the title game is wide open. Lose that, and it probably won't matter what they do the rest of the way.
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USC will beat OSU, and hopefully they will lose one more so they can't play in the championship.
 
#43
#43
my guess is if they lose to USC they have almost zero shot of making it to the championship.
 
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#44
VolinArizona said:
Ringer demolishes Hill, but he and Wells are very very close.

Ringer had more ypc than Wells behind a far far far worse OL, but Wells was only a SO.
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yup they have a good RB, but QB play, oline, and secondary are a major concern. the Cal/MSU game should be a decent indicator of where either team is going.
 
#46
#46
They put them there because they play a bunch of juco teams all year. Then they get waxed when they play a decent team.
 
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