Ok Heup Train what scenario could cause us issues?

[DD4ME]

I think this team could legit win any game at least once. Unfortunately we play in a conference where we might face opponents multiple times. If you had to pick a team or a recipe to defeat UT outside of them beating themselves what is it? Below are mine.

1. Will not say it specifically, but Hendon Hooker is the juice that runs this team.

2. Dominant D line that can control the line of scrimmage. Best shot at this is UGA.

3. An equally potent offense and slightly better defense that can eek out a win. Closest approximation was Bama because of Young. Do not want to play that guy twice personally. Best shot in playoffs is Ohio State.

4. Well rounded team that just presses the breaks in their favor. Could be any of the playoff teams. Examples are the Pitt game, UF game, or Bama game minus a made play by UT.

I love that I can post this and genuinely not fear a likely scenario, but being honest no team is unbeatable. The biggest risk I think we face is playing opponents multiple times. I think in a one time head to head with all the teams in CFB we win. Truly.

 

[rocktopper16]

It’s possible that we play both Alabama & Georgia twice this year

 

[joevol33]

Hoping for a scenario where we make it to Atlanta, and someone else besides bama. That said, if we did and played them again, it'd be sweet to win. Shut up all the crying bammers who want us on a neutral field.

 

[DD4ME]

It’s possible that we play both Alabama & Georgia twice this year

Yuck

 

[rocktopper16]

Hoping for a scenario where we make it to Atlanta, and someone else besides bama. That said, if we did and played them again, it'd be sweet to win. Shut up all the crying bammers who want us on a neutral field.

& beat them twice in one year!

 

[DD4ME]

It’s possible that we play both Alabama & Georgia twice this year

The SEC should get 3 teams in, but they won't. Truth is we need an expanded playoff yesterday.

 

[allvol123]

A slowed down game in the 20s.

He is basically playing tennis when the score is 40s or above and believes, rightfully so, that you will lose serve (not score on offense) before he doesn’t score on offense.

Of course UGA can beat. That result would not be shocking.

Aside from UGA, I think UK is the most problematic team left.

 

[Jeff Clark]

I think Georgia will be like Alabama and Tennessee will win by a last minute field goal or touchdown and win something like 45-42.

 

[BanditVol]

I think this team could legit win any game at least once. Unfortunately we play in a conference where we might face opponents multiple times. If you had to pick a team or a recipe to defeat UT outside of them beating themselves what is it? Below are mine.

1. Will not say it specifically, but Hendon Hooker is the juice that runs this team.

2. Dominant D line that can control the line of scrimmage. Best shot at this is UGA.

3. An equally potent offense and slightly better defense that can eek out a win. Closest approximation was Bama because of Young. Do not want to play that guy twice personally. Best shot in playoffs is Ohio State.

4. Well rounded team that just presses the breaks in their favor. Could be any of the playoff teams. Examples are the Pitt game, UF game, or Bama game minus a made play by UT.

I love that I can post this and genuinely not fear a likely scenario, but being honest no team is unbeatable. The biggest risk I think we face is playing opponents multiple times. I think in a one time head to head with all the teams in CFB we win. Truly.

How is the uga Dline "dominant"? They are only 124th in the country at sacking the other team.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

How is the uga Dline "dominant"? They are only 124th in the country at sacking the other team.

They are 4th in rush defense and 10th on red zone defense.

 

[DD4ME]

A slowed down game in the 20s.

He is basically playing tennis when the score is 40s or above and believes, rightfully so, that you will lose serve (not score on offense) before he doesn’t score on offense.

Of course UGA can beat. That result would not be shocking.

Aside from UGA, I think UK is the most problematic team left.

Even in the playoffs?

 

[DD4ME]

How is the uga Dline "dominant"? They are only 124th in the country at sacking the other team.

Maybe they just play complimentary football but they are second in scoring Defense, 4th in rushing, 10th in red zone, and 4th in total defense.

 

[VFL92]

I've said it many times, but the key to beating a Josh Heupel team is being able to run the ball effectively and controlling the clock. Tennessee usually controls the tempo and WE put pressure on the opponent to keep up. But if the opponent can sustain long drives and slow the game down, it starts to put pressure back on the Vols, forcing them to score every drive and it also puts a LOT more pressure on Tennessee's defense to get off the field and they can get worn down.

The key to our success this season has been our ability to stop the run. If you take away Abanikanda's 76 yard TD run, no rusher has averaged better than 4.3 yards/carry. That's an incredible improvement from last season and the reason we are where we are.

 

[DD4ME]

I've said it many times, but the key to beating a Josh Heupel team is being able to run the ball effectively and controlling the clock. Tennessee usually controls the tempo and WE put pressure on the opponent to keep up. But if the opponent can sustain long drives and slow the game down, it starts to put pressure back on the Vols, forcing them to score every drive and it also puts a LOT more pressure on Tennessee's defense to get off the field and they can get worn down.

The key to our success this season has been our ability to stop the run. If you take away Abanikanda's 76 yard TD run, no rusher has averaged better than 4.3 yards/carry. That's an incredible improvement from last season and the reason we are where we are.

Good points.

 

[VolBricks]

the answer is "Any Team Can Beat Any Team Any Day" The SEC might be the only conference that fits this any year. I know Vandy and Mizzou are not strong this year but if TN shows up and sleep walks through the game it could be very uncomfortable.

 

[chatt.vol]

Maybe they just play complimentary football but they are second in scoring Defense, 4th in rushing, 10th in red zone, and 4th in total defense.

They are good but looking at all defensive stats they are only significantly better than Tennessee in pass yards allowed. Which contribute to total yards allowed. Seems that's how they determine Total D ranking.

3rd down efficiency
UT .327
Ga .295

4th down efficiency
UT .474
GA. 500

Fumbles Recovered
UT 17th
GA 90th

Pass Intercepted
Tied

Red Zone D
UT 13th
GA 10th

Rushing D
UT 8th
GA 4th

Sacks
UT 42nd (17)
GA 124th (7)

Tackles for loss
UT 43rd
GA 116th

Yards per play
UT 5.43
GA 4.44

Scoring
Georgia gives up 2 tds less per game.

 

[jbeeman85]

Maybe they just play complimentary football but they are second in scoring Defense, 4th in rushing, 10th in red zone, and 4th in total defense.

This phrase has been ruined for me and brings up nightmare flashbacks to Mr. Brick by Brick.

That being said, at this point the biggest thing I am worried about is the team believing their own hype and overlooking an opponent.

 

[allvol123]

Even in the playoffs?

No, was just referring to regular season. This team makes it to the playoffs, that is like blowing the top off. Way ahead of schedule.

 

[rocketskates]

If you can hold Tennessee to under 35 points, I’d say as an opposing team you have a shot. The last thing you want to do is get into a shootout with our offense.

 

[DD4ME]

If you can hold Tennessee to under 35 points, I’d say as an opposing team you have a shot. The last thing you want to do is get into a shootout with our offense.

Agree

 

[DD4ME]

This phrase has been ruined for me and brings up nightmare flashbacks to Mr. Brick by Brick.

That being said, at this point the biggest thing I am worried about is the team believing their own hype and overlooking an opponent.

Good point and lol on the brick reference

 

[DD4ME]

They are good but looking at all defensive stats they are only significantly better than Tennessee in pass yards allowed. Which contribute to total yards allowed. Seems that's how they determine Total D ranking.

3rd down efficiency
UT .327
Ga .295

4th down efficiency
UT .474
GA. 500

Fumbles Recovered
UT 17th
GA 90th

Pass Intercepted
Tied

Red Zone D
UT 13th
GA 10th

Rushing D
UT 8th
GA 4th

Sacks
UT 42nd (17)
GA 124th (7)

Tackles for loss
UT 43rd
GA 116th

Yards per play
UT 5.43
GA 4.44

Scoring
Georgia gives up 2 tds less per game.

Great points. I think our defense is really underrated and overlooked due to the woes on passing D.

 

[DD4ME]

I've said it many times, but the key to beating a Josh Heupel team is being able to run the ball effectively and controlling the clock. Tennessee usually controls the tempo and WE put pressure on the opponent to keep up. But if the opponent can sustain long drives and slow the game down, it starts to put pressure back on the Vols, forcing them to score every drive and it also puts a LOT more pressure on Tennessee's defense to get off the field and they can get worn down.

The key to our success this season has been our ability to stop the run. If you take away Abanikanda's 76 yard TD run, no rusher has averaged better than 4.3 yards/carry. That's an incredible improvement from last season and the reason we are where we are.

The one team I fear can do both is Ohio State. They are very potent too and strong defensively. We could lose to anyone sure, but that team seems like the best total team to me.

 

[IndianaVol]

Georgia doesn't bring a lot of pressure upfront on Defense, but their secondary is NFL level across the board.
That's going to give UT fits as far pushing the ball down the field.
Our running game behind what should be a better matched O Line will be the key to that win.

My scenario that will cause us issue is special teams play.
Our ST unit has been getting overlooked a lot.
Yes, Brooks isn't punting or kicking as well as last year, but our coverage guys have made some spectacular plays this year.
There have been a few 'forced' muff punts (our coverage gets there the same time as the ball and the guy catching the ball is surprised) and a couple that we recovered that setup short fields for the Offense.
Add a few good returns by Dee Williams and the special teams guys have been carrying their own water.

 

[sjt18]

I think this team could legit win any game at least once. Unfortunately we play in a conference where we might face opponents multiple times. If you had to pick a team or a recipe to defeat UT outside of them beating themselves what is it? Below are mine.

1. Will not say it specifically, but Hendon Hooker is the juice that runs this team.

Not arguing the value of Hooker but I think the leadership first of Heupel and then of the team makes every player more replaceable than any team since the early 2000's. In the past, injuries led to hopelessness and ultimately excuses. UT has suffered some important injuries. You really haven't been able to tell it on the field.

2. Dominant D line that can control the line of scrimmage. Best shot at this is UGA.

Agree. UGA vs USCe is probably the kind of performance that could throw UT's O off the tracks. But UT's OL is better than USCe's.

Interesting nugget. Against FBS opponents only, UT has the SEC's top rush D. The Vols, Bama, and UGA are all around 93-94 ypg. UK is next at 127.

3. An equally potent offense and slightly better defense that can eek out a win. Closest approximation was Bama because of Young. Do not want to play that guy twice personally. Best shot in playoffs is Ohio State.

Agree with Bama. IMHO, tOSU has not been tested. They've played a weak schedule in the comparative sense. In a strange way, I don't think we get to see who they truly are until they face Michigan at the end. It would be a major shock if PSU can stay on field with the Buckeyes.

4. Well rounded team that just presses the breaks in their favor. Could be any of the playoff teams. Examples are the Pitt game, UF game, or Bama game minus a made play by UT.

I wouldn't put Pitt or UF in that category. One of the impressive things not talked about with Heupel and this team is that they have gotten better each week. UT now would monkey stomp Pitt right now. It would be ugly.

IMO, they grew up some vs UF. The celebration had already started and UF caught a couple of miracles.

I think UT hurting themselves and surviving is the real story there. I don't think either team was particularly well rounded.

I love that I can post this and genuinely not fear a likely scenario, but being honest no team is unbeatable. The biggest risk I think we face is playing opponents multiple times. I think in a one time head to head with all the teams in CFB we win. Truly.

I think UGA is the team most built to cause UT problems. I think Bama on D is a poor man's version of Bama. I don't think they're very good on O.

UGA is loaded and more than most teams have strengths that appear to match UT's.