Oklahoma forfeits entire 2005 season

#27
#27
TheDeeble said:
Actually they're not forfeiting anything. They're vacating the 05 season. If from what I've read is correct, they lose the wins, but keep the same amount of losses.

05 should become an 0-4 season.
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Thank you for stating that. OU will be appealing that vacating ruling.

It doesn't pay to selfreport to the NCAA.
 
#28
#28
ITs a crock to have a team vacate wins. If I were on the 05 team and someone asked me what our record was in 05. Im not going to say 0-5 Im going to say 8-4. Then if they said yeah, but you had to vacate those wins in 05. Yes, but we played them and we won so I know what we did. Its total crap. And 2 scholarships wow that hurts. I dont think so.
 
#30
#30
ruslt said:
ITs a crock to have a team vacate wins. If I were on the 05 team and someone asked me what our record was in 05. Im not going to say 0-5 Im going to say 8-4. Then if they said yeah, but you had to vacate those wins in 05. Yes, but we played them and we won so I know what we did. Its total crap. And 2 scholarships wow that hurts. I dont think so.
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Exactly. And it's not as though it was a conference or national championship season. Who cares? I think they got off way too easy. As I said earlier, they send kids to this dealership to "work" every year. If they didn't know what was going on, they sure should have known. And don't tell me bomar and the other kid are the only ones over the many years who had that agreement. How is this not a lack of institutional control? The ncaa has one set of laws for the powers and another for the dregs.
 
#31
#31
TennTradition said:
The article referenced here had the record with eight less wins and four more losses (from 86-19 to 78-27). However, the article now on ESPN's frontpage has Stoops with 8 less wins, but the same number of losses (from 86-19 to 78-19). If they are forfeiting, then I would say that the record would be 78-27. If they are vacating, then I would think it would be 78-15. Otherwise, they only vacate their wins but keep their losses - which is weird.

If they vacate their wins but not their losses - does that mean if you lost to Oklahoma, you get to take one loss off your loss column (but not add anything to your wins). And, if you beat them, then you keep your win? I guess the math would work out if they did it that way. It is just weird because they really aren't vacating the whole season if you keep the losses.

Edit: The articles are one in the same. ESPN has gone in and edited their original article to reflect a record of 78-19 instead of 78-27 like they had before. The question is...what happens to the 4 losses? Do they stay as losses?
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Yes, Oklahoma just got a vacating for all wins instead of forfeiting; they are differernt. Forfeiting is like Alabama, all wins in which that player played become losses.
 
#34
#34
Stoops has already got the things he wanted:

c$sh and nation-wide reputation.
It would not hurt any thing(I guess) at OK, but bringing some support for Texas fans when people from two state talk to each other...
 
#37
#37
droski said:
Exactly. And it's not as though it was a conference or national championship season. Who cares? I think they got off way too easy. As I said earlier, they send kids to this dealership to "work" every year. If they didn't know what was going on, they sure should have known. And don't tell me bomar and the other kid are the only ones over the many years who had that agreement. How is this not a lack of institutional control? The ncaa has one set of laws for the powers and another for the dregs.
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Maybe if you read the entire report instead of what the media says you would get it right.
 
#38
#38
Soonervol2 said:
Maybe if you read the entire report instead of what the media says you would get it right.
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Right the media is against you. They just want to take down your program. Is there any fanbase that believes gives their team favorable coverage?
 
#39
#39
droski said:
Right the media is against you. They just want to take down your program. Is there any fanbase that believes gives their team favorable coverage?
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Yours should. No program in recent memory has gotten more hype for accomplishing less.
 
#44
#44
hatvol96 said:
Yours should. No program in recent memory has gotten more hype for accomplishing less.
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Right we received plenty of great coverage after the tenn game last year. The media really kissed our butt. And as for ND, their fans say the media is against them too. If you want to waste your time, go read their mesageboard, it's filled with idiots complaining about the unfair media coverage.
 
#48
#48
Fine Vol said:
Sorry quick side question for Hat, the player the Magic just picked up, is this a great acquisition?
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I'm not sure I would be comfortable paying an injury prone player that kind of money, but Lewis wil certainly help their offense.
 
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