OL Eligibility

#27
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mitzustu said:
Our offensive line has a large number of Seniors. It’ll easily be our biggest off-season question mark. Below I’ve listed everyone that’s a senior on our roster.

Does anyone know who has eligibility remaining due to COVID year or other reasons?

John Campbell - Finished
Javontaz Spraggins - has an option to return
Jeremiah Crawford - has a redshirt year available and has only played in 4 games. If he doesn't play anymore, he could return
Cooper Mays - has an option to return
Parker Ball - No idea. not on scholarship.
Dayne Davis - has an option to return
Jackson Lampley - has an option to return
Ollie Lane - Finished

If the entire list is gone your only returning Starters are:

Gerald Mincey
Andre Karic

We do have a few bodies (8):
Shad Umarov 6’7 320
Larry Johnson 6’7 348
Brian Grant 6’7 329
Addison Nichols 6’5 327
Masai Reddick 6’5 340
Ayden Bussell 6’5 295
Mo Clipper 6’5 308
Vysen Lang 6’4 337

But we carried 18 OL this year. So we can almost certainly expect a couple of transfers in with 10 of note returning. We have 4 committed. We could see 2-4 transfers at this position alone.
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see my comments on the seniors. those with options to return can of course decide to move on.
 
#28
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VOL Campbell said:
Was just about to say this. I believe we will start seeing more and more players stick around longer due to NIL vs Rookie year money
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you have to have the budget. OL budget might not be as high as other positions. Coaches have to dictate who gets what..
 
#29
#29
majinVol said:
There's actually 5 offensive lineman currently committed in this class, could be six if we get seaton
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like this year's class, next year's class will not help. If they have to depend on either class for a lot of reps, could be a long offensive season.
 
#30
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Boston Vol said:
Looking at draft sites, the highest he’s rated at his position is 15th, which would mean an undrafted free agent. I’m sure the injury has something to do with that, but as of now, he’s not very highly ranked.
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be shocked if Cooper returns. I believe he is ready to move on, be in NFL or just life
 
#32
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mitzustu said:
Our offensive line has a large number of Seniors. It’ll easily be our biggest off-season question mark. Below I’ve listed everyone that’s a senior on our roster.

Does anyone know who has eligibility remaining due to COVID year or other reasons?

John Campbell
Javontaz Spraggins
Jeremiah Crawford
Cooper Mays
Parker Ball
Dayne Davis
Jackson Lampley
Ollie Lane

If the entire list is gone your only returning Starters are:

Gerald Mincey
Andre Karic

We do have a few bodies (8):
Shad Umarov 6’7 320
Larry Johnson 6’7 348
Brian Grant 6’7 329
Addison Nichols 6’5 327
Masai Reddick 6’5 340
Ayden Bussell 6’5 295
Mo Clipper 6’5 308
Vysen Lang 6’4 337

But we carried 18 OL this year. So we can almost certainly expect a couple of transfers in with 10 of note returning. We have 4 committed. We could see 2-4 transfers at this position alone.
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I think Spraggins, Mays, Davis and Lampley could all come back for an extra year.
 
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LWSVOL said:
like this year's class, next year's class will not help. If they have to depend on either class for a lot of reps, could be a long offensive season.
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This past years class that bad? That they won’t be able to help next year?
 
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BP4Prez said:
This past years class that bad? That they won’t be able to help next year?
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It's not that it's bad. It's just that the majority of OL don't contribute earlier than third year as redshirt sophomores. Many not until fourth year. I've got numbers somewhere that show for the 2022 class 108 of the top 120 lineman redshirted. If I checked my guess is that 75 percent of the 120 are doing no more than special teams this year...
 
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mitzustu said:
Our offensive line has a large number of Seniors. It’ll easily be our biggest off-season question mark. Below I’ve listed everyone that’s a senior on our roster.

Does anyone know who has eligibility remaining due to COVID year or other reasons?

John Campbell
Javontaz Spraggins
Jeremiah Crawford
Cooper Mays
Parker Ball
Dayne Davis
Jackson Lampley
Ollie Lane

If the entire list is gone your only returning Starters are:

Gerald Mincey
Andre Karic

We do have a few bodies (8):
Shad Umarov 6’7 320
Larry Johnson 6’7 348
Brian Grant 6’7 329
Addison Nichols 6’5 327
Masai Reddick 6’5 340
Ayden Bussell 6’5 295
Mo Clipper 6’5 308
Vysen Lang 6’4 337

But we carried 18 OL this year. So we can almost certainly expect a couple of transfers in with 10 of note returning. We have 4 committed. We could see 2-4 transfers at this position alone.
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So if we assume those who can move on will move on, who do we project will be the starters. I understand it’s impossible to be accurate without knowing how the portal shakes out… just trying to get a grip on how big the need is.
 
#37
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@mitzustu @volfan_28

Offensive Line 2024 Outlook

Some have asked both here and in recruiting forum about next years offensive line and what it could look like. Per the article linked below: All seems to hinge on the decisions of Campbell, spraggins, and mays. Could be one of our best units. Could be a massive question mark/area of concern...
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Remaining eligibility breakdown for 2023 Tennessee football seniors

Remaining eligibility breakdown for UT seniors. https://volswire.usatoday.com/lists/remaining-eligibility-breakdown-for-2023-tennessee-volunteers-football-seniors-on-roster/
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mitzustu said:
Our offensive line has a large number of Seniors. It’ll easily be our biggest off-season question mark. Below I’ve listed everyone that’s a senior on our roster.

Does anyone know who has eligibility remaining due to COVID year or other reasons?

John Campbell
Javontaz Spraggins
Jeremiah Crawford
Cooper Mays
Parker Ball
Dayne Davis
Jackson Lampley
Ollie Lane

If the entire list is gone your only returning Starters are:

Gerald Mincey
Andre Karic

We do have a few bodies (8):
Shad Umarov 6’7 320
Larry Johnson 6’7 348
Brian Grant 6’7 329
Addison Nichols 6’5 327
Masai Reddick 6’5 340
Ayden Bussell 6’5 295
Mo Clipper 6’5 308
Vysen Lang 6’4 337

But we carried 18 OL this year. So we can almost certainly expect a couple of transfers in with 10 of note returning. We have 4 committed. We could see 2-4 transfers at this position alone.
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O)urn Oline will be better next year, especially if #83 decides to come back.
 
#41
#41
We need to hit the portal hard for the offensive line. At center, guard and tackle...at least one for each position and ideally 2 guards on interior We have a ton of starting opportunities for offensive lineman in the portal but our offense isn't exactly the most conducive for a big guy to come in and excel immediately, given the pace we play at. If all the upperclassmen leave, we are going to be extremely young. Most of the seniors should leave as the chances of them improving their stock for NFL draft isn't likely to change much.
At center, I expect Cooper Mays is gone which leaves us with few experienced options. At this point without any changes Vysen Lang would probably be the starter which isn't ideal given he is a freshman.
At guard, Spraggins I expect is gone too. Nothing else to prove for him. Which leaves us with Andrej Karic as one of the few interior lineman with much experience and he was often hurt. Lampley could come back but he isn't good enough and the coaches should tell him they don't have room for him. Time for players like Nichols, Reddick, Clipper to grow up.
At tackle, assuming Mincy comes back he probably would be deemed our best offensive lineman. Dayne Davis could return for another year, and expect he will as he isn't going to be playing pro anywhere. At least we have a number of bodies at tackle. Johnson III, Grant, Umarov, and incoming recruits like Bennett Warren and Max Anderson all have a chance to start or get into rotation.

Looks weak going into next year unless we add multiple quality players in portal. Like potentially as bad as South Carolina's offensive line was this year or Kentucky's was last year. I trust Elarbee but he is going to have to be a miracle worker with this young group.
 
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#42
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vol_in_ga said:
None of the guys who can’t move on have ever started for us. That should tell you what you need to know.
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It just tells me there’s been more physically mature people ahead of them, which is the case for almost all OL during their first two years on campus.
 
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#43
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Namorto1 said:
We need to hit the portal hard for the offensive line. At center, guard and tackle...at least one for each position and ideally 2 guards on interior We have a ton of starting opportunities for offensive lineman in the portal but our offense isn't exactly the most conducive for a big guy to come in and excel immediately, given the pace we play at. If all the upperclassmen leave, we are going to be extremely young. Most of the seniors should leave as the chances of them improving their stock for NFL draft isn't likely to change much.
At center, I expect Cooper Mays is gone which leaves us with few experienced options. At this point without any changes Vysen Lang would probably be the starter which isn't ideal given he is a freshman.
At guard, Spraggins I expect is gone too. Nothing else to prove for him. Which leaves us with Andrej Karic as one of the few interior lineman with much experience and he was often hurt. Lampley could come back but he isn't good enough and the coaches should tell him they don't have room for him. Time for players like Nichols, Reddick, Clipper to grow up.
At tackle, assuming Mincy comes back he probably would be deemed our best offensive lineman. Dayne Davis could return for another year, and expect he will as he isn't going to be playing pro anywhere. At least we have a number of bodies at tackle. Johnson III, Grant, Umarov, and incoming recruits like Bennett Warren and Max Anderson all have a chance to start or get into rotation.

Looks weak going into next year unless we add multiple quality players in portal. Like potentially as bad as South Carolina's offensive line was this year or Kentucky's was last year. I trust Elarbee but he is going to have to be a miracle worker with this young group.
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Speaking of Mincey, what’s up with him. Davis started Saturday which made me think Mincey was hurt. But when Davis was injured Mincey came in. Is Mincey in the doghouse over something again?
 
#44
#44
VAVol85 said:
Speaking of Mincey, what’s up with him. Davis started Saturday which made me think Mincey was hurt. But when Davis was injured Mincey came in. Is Mincey in the doghouse over something again?
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He got embarrassed vs Missouri. There’s a good breakdown of the game on YouTube that exposes it. Can’t remember the YouTuber’s name but it was posted here
 
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#45
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Namorto1 said:
We need to hit the portal hard for the offensive line. At center, guard and tackle...at least one for each position and ideally 2 guards on interior We have a ton of starting opportunities for offensive lineman in the portal but our offense isn't exactly the most conducive for a big guy to come in and excel immediately, given the pace we play at. If all the upperclassmen leave, we are going to be extremely young. Most of the seniors should leave as the chances of them improving their stock for NFL draft isn't likely to change much.
At center, I expect Cooper Mays is gone which leaves us with few experienced options. At this point without any changes Vysen Lang would probably be the starter which isn't ideal given he is a freshman.
At guard, Spraggins I expect is gone too. Nothing else to prove for him. Which leaves us with Andrej Karic as one of the few interior lineman with much experience and he was often hurt. Lampley could come back but he isn't good enough and the coaches should tell him they don't have room for him. Time for players like Nichols, Reddick, Clipper to grow up.
At tackle, assuming Mincy comes back he probably would be deemed our best offensive lineman. Dayne Davis could return for another year, and expect he will as he isn't going to be playing pro anywhere. At least we have a number of bodies at tackle. Johnson III, Grant, Umarov, and incoming recruits like Bennett Warren and Max Anderson all have a chance to start or get into rotation.

Looks weak going into next year unless we add multiple quality players in portal. Like potentially as bad as South Carolina's offensive line was this year or Kentucky's was last year. I trust Elarbee but he is going to have to be a miracle worker with this young group.
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So it’s looking something like:

LT: Johnson III
LG: Karick
C: Lang
RG: Umarov
RT: Mincey

Reserves: Nichols, Reddick, Clipper

I wouldn’t say any of those are locked in. Any could get upgraded with the portal or a generational talent coming in as a true freshman. Not sure if there is one of those in this class or not but Seaton potentially could be. Odds are so slim tho that it’d be silly to assume he starts if we do sign him.
 
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