Old Dooley Threads

#26
#26
HollowaytoSeivers said:
I don't know if defending CDD meant I supported him because he was the head coach, but until the Mizzou game last season that was the case. The end of regulation was the last straw for me.

How in the name of General Neyland do you not make an attempt to win the game when you are: 1) playing at home, 2) have good field position, 3) have two timeouts, 4) have one of the best passing attacks in the country?

Just thinking about the way that game ended makes me want to throw up. However, without that game and other near-misses, CBJ and his staff might be stacking bricks at Colorado.
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1) We were playing at home.
2) We got the ball on our 37 yard line, I think.
3) I think that we just had one timeout left, when we decided to play for overtime. I think that we ran 2 plays trying to get a 1st down, and then gave up, facing 3rd and 9, with too much time remaining if we threw another incompletion.
4) One of the "best passing attacks in the country" gained just 1 yard on our last 5 plays( 2 possessions) before we decided to give it up. Bray completed 1 pass of his last 5 for zero yards, if my memory is correct. The 1 yard was a run by Lane.
 
#27
#27
I've often wondered if DD had tried to build it "brick by brick" in year "0" if he would have fared better that laying it all on a novice QB and good reciever?
 
#28
#28
It's a shame to admit, but I never truly thought he should be gone till the Mizzou game. The way we lost that game after dominating for so long is just ridiculous. I never really began to question until UK 2011, those questions returned after UF 2012, and it just intensified and got worse from there.
 
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#29
#29
Pulse of VN under Dooley: After UK loss- 80/20 he needs more time; After MSST loss- 50/50 he needs more time; After Mizzou- 99/Barbara get him out of town
 
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#30
#30
GBO97 said:
It's a shame to admit, but I never truly thought he should be gone till the Mizzou game. The way we lost that game after dominating for so long is just ridiculous. I never really began to question until UK 2011, those questions returned after UF 2012, and it just intensified and got worse from there.
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When I saw even Mizzou fans questioning how they won, I knew without a doubt we had a terrible coach on our hands.
 
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#31
#31
Said it once before and I will say it again.

"Dooley was an average coach with good intentions. He tried to change the atmosphere in Knoxville but his plan backfired. I always pulled for him and I hope he learns from it and grows from it.

His chances of turning the team was lost with the lack of control from many "me" players. That is what he walked into and failed. He deserved his buyout IMO.

Fans and reporters jumped on him early and I think it eventually caused him to give up mentally. He's human. I gave up on my company a few times and was just going through the motions. A lot of pressure dealing with delays, angery customers, putting your heart into it and not having enough to pay the bills. I can only imagine what his pressure was like. Walk a mile in his shoes.

I think if he had it to do over again he would have chosen a different route. Starting with Bray."
 
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#32
#32
Also to add to this. A lot of the Dooley hating about the HS coach's came from the TimesFreePress reporter that hated Dooley. That same guy said he had "factual inside" info that Gruden had already agreed to everything interms and was waiting for the announcement. When it was squashed by the media he still said it was happening and that some HS coach was going to be part of his staff. Irronically it was one of the coachs that said CDD wasn't recruiting well.

A lot of people who seem to like hating people took the article as fact and still hold it true to this day. Never once did they think it had something to do with money, bad journalism, website views, bad character, bad people or the fact that Dooley was told not to recruit any longer because his job would end. I fail to believe that CDD didn't want to win. I fail to believe that he didn't put everything he had into it and it took its toll on him. Was he a great coach? No, Maybe a medicore coach at best. Could we have done better under the circumstances? No, he was out fifth choice?

We act like we are the prom queen and some ugly guy stood us up. We were the girl who couldn't get a date to the prom until somebody stepped up.

Just a thought, stop hating people constantly. It's a sign of immaturity.
 
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#33
#33
dduncan4163 said:
That game made me as sick as the 96 Memphis and 2001 SEC Championship game did.
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Still cant think about that dang 96 memphis game without wanting to kick something. I aint ever gonna get over the 90 bama either.
 
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#34
#34
Really he should have been fired after the Kentucky game. When we lost to Florida last year, I knew he was gone. I figured they had started to look into replacements. That being said I would have fired him before left the field after the Mizzou loss.
 
#35
#35
I never really bought in 100% to Dooley, probably because he was 17-20 in the WAC.

But after the 2011 Kentucky game, that's when I thought they should have got rid of him. I believe that coaches need time, but that loss was inexplicable in so many ways.
 
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#37
#37
I wouldn't say I was ever 100% but I tried to stay optimistic. Problem was you never really saw the mistakes being fixed. After the LSU debacle how many times were there too many or too few guys on the feild? It was ridiculous to keep botching such a simple thing. Year two the was some bad breaks with injuries but the tipping point was UK. There was absolutely no excuse for that.

At that point I put him at 8 wins or get lost for '12. It's when I put "Former Dooley supporter" under my name with a silent vow to remove it once he won a game that mattered. Miss St was my finish line. I was done with him as coach but felt bad for him as a person. Until I found out about how he quit recruiting. Then I started hating on him as a person.
 
#39
#39
SolidRockGolf said:
Also to add to this. A lot of the Dooley hating about the HS coach's came from the TimesFreePress reporter that hated Dooley. That same guy said he had "factual inside" info that Gruden had already agreed to everything interms and was waiting for the announcement. When it was squashed by the media he still said it was happening and that some HS coach was going to be part of his staff. Irronically it was one of the coachs that said CDD wasn't recruiting well.
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The article went on record with quite a few high school coaches by name who said Dooley dropped the ball. Unlike most garbage articles there was very few anonymous sources.
 
#40
#40
We were mentioning Gruden back then too. I guess 3 years still couldnt make people realize that he was never coming here.
 
#41
#41
loservol said:
The article went on record with quite a few high school coaches by name who said Dooley dropped the ball. Unlike most garbage articles there was very few anonymous sources.
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All those HS kids are now in South Carolina pumping gas!
 
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