Old Miss OT Tunsil arrested for Domestic Violence

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Tunsil is now being reported to have received $100,000 by Ole Miss. Kinda makes you wonder if Butch and Co has done the same with some one? I don't trust Hugh Freeze and I think he's kinda shady, but we both have sucked recently and all of a sudden we're recruiting at high levels out of nowhere. Just makes you think some
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
Tunsil is now being reported to have received $100,000 by Ole Miss. Kinda makes you wonder if Butch and Co has done the same with some one? I don't trust Hugh Freeze and I think he's kinda shady, but we both have sucked recently and all of a sudden we're recruiting at high levels out of nowhere. Just makes you think some
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Tennessee has a hell of a lot more to sell than Ole Miss.
 
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JohnMcA60 said:
@mrosekNFL: Rumor was Laremy Tunsil flipped from UGA to Ole Miss after they offered 100K and Natl. Champ. tix. His stepfather is now backing that claim.
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Looks like the stepfather gon get the last laugh in this one
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
Tunsil is now being reported to have received $100,000 by Ole Miss. Kinda makes you wonder if Butch and Co has done the same with some one? I don't trust Hugh Freeze and I think he's kinda shady, but we both have sucked recently and all of a sudden we're recruiting at high levels out of nowhere. Just makes you think some
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We cheat. Make no mistake... Our hands are dirty. But there's a world of difference btwn what we have to do and what ole miss has to do. Hundred dollar handshakes vs a 6 figure payout
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
Tunsil is now being reported to have received $100,000 by Ole Miss. Kinda makes you wonder if Butch and Co has done the same with some one? I don't trust Hugh Freeze and I think he's kinda shady, but we both have sucked recently and all of a sudden we're recruiting at high levels out of nowhere. Just makes you think some
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All recruiting can be shady but to compare butch to freeze is absolutely laughable. Treadwell is another one that was completely shady.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
yeh there was a photo of him flashing money as well lol.
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Let's just say I know a guy who is heavily involved at fsu and he was absolutely floored that tunsil chose ole miss. He is usually spot on with kids especially with fsu and told me instantly that something shady had to have happened.
 
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Tennessee has a lot more to sell than Mississippi. Nationally known stadium, world class facilities, great tradition and fan base. Only biased point may be fanbase but then again.....
 
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508mikey said:
Actually a divorce lawyer will
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So you have a possible NCAA investigation involving a family squabble taking place in a Mississippi divorce court. This should provide exceptional ratings to move Finebaum to prime time on the SEC Network.

The major networks will surely feel threatened in Alabama. Smart investors will probably be calling their brokers to invest in the rabbit ears manufacturers soon.
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
Tunsil is now being reported to have received $100,000 by Ole Miss. Kinda makes you wonder if Butch and Co has done the same with some one? I don't trust Hugh Freeze and I think he's kinda shady, but we both have sucked recently and all of a sudden we're recruiting at high levels out of nowhere. Just makes you think some
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This is ridiculous. With the exception of '06-'08 in the Fulmer years and then the last two Dooley years (counting '13 as a Dooley year), for the most part since 1994 Tennessee has always signed classes in the top 15 with several in the top ten. That a new coach with a lot of charisma could sign top ten classes in his first two seasons is not out of the blue especially considering the high number of legacy players and in state players included in these classes. There has not been a WTF type of signee for Tennessee under Butch Jones that Laremy Tunsil was for Ole Miss. Can you name a 4* or 5* player that Tennessee has signed that wasn't either a legacy, in-state or border state player (specifically GA or NC)? Tennessee's classes make complete sense unlike the Ole Miss '13 class which really was inconsistent with how they have historically recruited.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is ridiculous. With the exception of '06-'08 in the Fulmer years and then the last two Dooley years (counting '13 as a Dooley year), for the most part since 1994 Tennessee has always signed classes in the top 15 with several in the top ten. That a new coach with a lot of charisma could sign top ten classes in his first two seasons is not out of the blue especially considering the high number of legacy players and in state players included in these classes. There has not been a WTF type of signee for Tennessee under Butch Jones that Laremy Tunsil was for Ole Miss. Can you name a 4* or 5* player that Tennessee has signed that wasn't either a legacy, in-state or border state player (specifically GA or NC)? Tennessee's classes make complete sense unlike the Ole Miss '13 class which really was inconsistent with how they have historically recruited.
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There's a huge difference in signing a top 15-20 class and signing a top 5 class. We have sucked for years and even with Dooley recruiting us a top 15 class every year, the talent wasn't that great. Butch came in from Cincinnati and Central Michigan and starts recruiting top 5 classes almost immediately. It's just kinda weird if you look at it considering how bad we've been for a few years. But you're right, Ole Miss signing a top 5 class out of nowhere like they did was really out of place
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
There's a huge difference in signing a top 15-20 class and signing a top 5 class. We have sucked for years and even with Dooley recruiting us a top 15 class every year, the talent wasn't that great. Butch came in from Cincinnati and Central Michigan and starts recruiting top 5 classes almost immediately. It's just kinda weird if you look at it considering how bad we've been for a few years. But you're right, Ole Miss signing a top 5 class out of nowhere like they did was really out of place
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Kiffin signed a top 5 class before Dooley. It was also pretty well known that Dooley did very little on the recruiting trail and that he destroyed many ties we had with schools and coaches.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Kiffin signed a top 5 class before Dooley. It was also pretty well known that Dooley did very little on the recruiting trail and that he destroyed many ties we had with schools and coaches.
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Kiffin was also a more well-known name. He's always recruited at a high level in college. Most players came because of his name and the NFL background he had. He can also be very deceptive and attracting to a young 18 year old kid. I'm just saying that I don't think most of thought that Butch would be able to come in and recruit at the level he has. As a recruit, I'd listen to the guy with a USC/NFL background over CMU/Cincy
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
Kiffin was also a more well-known name. He's always recruited at a high level in college. Most players came because of his name and the NFL background he had. He can also be very deceptive and attracting to a young 18 year old kid. I'm just saying that I don't think most of thought that Butch would be able to come in and recruit at the level he has. As a recruit, I'd listen to the guy with a USC/NFL background over CMU/Cincy
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I guess recruits realize that being at the best school doesn't make you the best coach.
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
There's a huge difference in signing a top 15-20 class and signing a top 5 class. We have sucked for years and even with Dooley recruiting us a top 15 class every year, the talent wasn't that great. Butch came in from Cincinnati and Central Michigan and starts recruiting top 5 classes almost immediately. It's just kinda weird if you look at it considering how bad we've been for a few years. But you're right, Ole Miss signing a top 5 class out of nowhere like they did was really out of place
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If you consider Tennessee's recruiting base as being in-state plus western North Carolina and northern Georgia and also include legacy players in that mix then there aren't many players who signed with Tennessee in the last two classes that don't fit the profile of players that normally do sign with Tennessee. Dewayne Hendrix (no longer even here) was from Illinois but even he had family from Memphis that were Tennessee fans. Gavin Bryant doesn't fit that profile but it's unclear how hard he was recruited by Alabama and Auburn due to grade concerns. Ethan Wolf is probably the best I can think of but I don't remember if he was a consensus 3 or 4 star recruit. Again, I would challenge anyone to name a 4 or 5 star player who has signed with Tennessee under Butch Jones who wasn't either a legacy, in-state or border state player. Jones is doing well but these are not new recruiting heights for Tennessee football. Our classes from 1994 to 1997 were all better than what Butch has signed. Basically, we are signing players that I would expect us to at least have a good chance with in most years.

Jarrett Guarantano is Butch's best recruiting achievement outside of our base so far but of course, he hasn't signed yet.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If you consider Tennessee's recruiting base as being in-state plus western North Carolina and northern Georgia and also include legacy players in that mix then there aren't many players who signed with Tennessee in the last two classes that don't fit the profile of players that normally do sign with Tennessee. Dewayne Hendrix (no longer even here) was from Illinois but even he had family from Memphis that were Tennessee fans. Gavin Bryant doesn't fit that profile but it's unclear how hard he was recruited by Alabama and Auburn due to grade concerns. Ethan Wolf is probably the best I can think of but I don't remember if he was a consensus 3 or 4 star recruit. Again, I would challenge anyone to name a 4 or 5 star player who has signed with Tennessee under Butch Jones who wasn't either a legacy, in-state or border state player. Jones is doing well but these are not new recruiting heights for Tennessee football. Our classes from 1994 to 1997 were all better than what Butch has signed. Basically, we are signing players that I would expect us to at least have a good chance with in most years.

Jarrett Guarantano is Butch's best recruiting achievement outside of our base so far but of course, he hasn't signed yet.
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We'll have to see how well he fares now that the legacy players are now on the team and he has to recruit a clean slate. Getting Guarantano is huge for us and I believe he's 100% all Vol, but as we see right now, our 2016 class isn't as high as one would hope. That'll change though once signing day comes around, but I don't think we'll be a top 5 class this year.
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
We'll have to see how well he fares now that the legacy players are now on the team and he has to recruit a clean slate. Getting Guarantano is huge for us and I believe he's 100% all Vol, but as we see right now, our 2016 class isn't as high as one would hope. That'll change though once signing day comes around, but I don't think we'll be a top 5 class this year.
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Everyone has already said we won't be a top 5 class for 2016 simply due to the lesser amount of recruits that we can take.
 
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CABVOL said:
Everyone has already said we won't be a top 5 class for 2016 simply due to the lesser amount of recruits that we can take.
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Hardknox says it won't be top ten because we didn't pay as many guys this year, and because butch can't recruit people he doesn't pay or who aren't legacies.
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
We'll have to see how well he fares now that the legacy players are now on the team and he has to recruit a clean slate. Getting Guarantano is huge for us and I believe he's 100% all Vol, but as we see right now, our 2016 class isn't as high as one would hope. That'll change though once signing day comes around, but I don't think we'll be a top 5 class this year.
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I get your concerns, but I can't help but feel like you're looking for problems where none exist. Hugh Freeze and Butch Jones walked into somewhat similar situations, except Jones has so much more to sell to begin with. He's a charismatic, family culture oriented salesman who gets families on board to build an actual football family here.

UT has top of the line multimillion dollar facilities, a history of being a powerhouse that still produced NFL talent every single year up until last even during a historically bad downtime, a massive and intimidating home stadium, a huge passionate fan base, and to boot it's located in a beautiful part of TN surrounded by rivers and mountains. Does OM have any of that?

I just simply think, as I said, you're overthinking it. :)
 
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Just over heard an Ole Miss booster and alum talking about everything going on down in the grove. Anyone heard about the 300k house near Oxford that Tunsil's mother lives in with no job? Bet that is the next shoe to drop...you heard it here first.
 
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