Older car "green tax"

[hndog609]

This is in India but I can see more than a few of the current Washington types getting behind some variation of it here.

Green Tax approved for private vehicles over 8 years old: What this means for car owners

 

[hog88]

This is in India but I can see more than a few of the current Washington types getting behind some variation of it here.

Green Tax approved for private vehicles over 8 years old: What this means for car owners

I think CA already has some variant of this.

 

[hndog609]

I think CA already has some variant of this.

If that's already the case I can see a push for something sooner rather than later.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Regressive tax that the Progressives will promote.

If it’s a fixed amount per vehicle instead of based on miles driven then it could be counter to being green as cars will be crushed prematurely.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Regressive tax that the Progressives will promote.

If it’s a fixed amount per vehicle instead of based on miles driven then it could be counter to being green as cars will be crushed prematurely.

Cash for clunckers.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Cash for clunckers.

I’m still pissed. I want a full sized Blazer.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

This is in India but I can see more than a few of the current Washington types getting behind some variation of it here.

Green Tax approved for private vehicles over 8 years old: What this means for car owners

Those 2 stroke rickshaws make more pollution in an hour than a V8 Raptor does in six months.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Would be hell to pay in Communist Cuba.

 

[hndog609]

Would be hell to pay in Communist Cuba.

I saw something, I think the American version of Top Gear, that had them in Cuba. Basically they marveled at how the mechanics down there are nothing short of wizards keeping all manner of ancient stuff running.

 

[LouderVol]

Regressive tax that the Progressives will promote.

If it’s a fixed amount per vehicle instead of based on miles driven then it could be counter to being green as cars will be crushed prematurely.

Auto industry loves it. Encourages more buying. And with a set lifetime they can get cheaper and cheaper on what they produce.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Auto industry loves it. Encourages more buying. And with a set lifetime they can get cheaper and cheaper on what they produce.

Exactly. They are facing headwinds with shared, autonomous vehicles coming. They need them to be disposable.

 

[Roustabout]

This is in India but I can see more than a few of the current Washington types getting behind some variation of it here.

Green Tax approved for private vehicles over 8 years old: What this means for car owners

Punish the poor and the working class

 

[StarRaider]

Dang was hoping my 19 year old diesel would get to the 25 year old antique before this commie sheet hit the fan

 

[MemphisVol77]

What is the sheer energy & environmental cost to produce a new (green or any kind) of vehicle?

I'm sure attempts to quantify it have been done before or it has been quantified already.

How many miles/years does it take to offset the energy & environmental costs producing a new vehicle before it's even driven off the assembly line versus keeping a vehicle +8 years old on the road?

The auto aftermarket actually loves sh!t like this. I've flipped cars before. This could open up profitability for me buying rollers from insurance auctions like CoPart and dropping LS's, 318's, 350's, 360's in them if I want to get back into it.

 

[KB5252]

I saw something, I think the American version of Top Gear, that had them in Cuba. Basically they marveled at how the mechanics down there are nothing short of wizards keeping all manner of ancient stuff running.

The machinists and fabricators there are nothing short of amazing. They are brilliant, out of necessity.

 

[ETV]

Auto industry loves it. Encourages more buying. And with a set lifetime they can get cheaper and cheaper on what they produce.

A significant portion of US manufacturers have performance divisions which cater to older vehicles produced beyond that 8 to 10 year age group. What affect will this have towards those divisions? Not to mention the aftermarket providers.

 

[AM64]

I saw something, I think the American version of Top Gear, that had them in Cuba. Basically they marveled at how the mechanics down there are nothing short of wizards keeping all manner of ancient stuff running.

That's basically BS. Cuban shops take old US cars in and put in Russian made engines and drive trains. There's virtually nothing original except the redone bodies. The 50s Pontiac we rode around in had a Gaz diesel. The mechanics are very good at conversions - not quite the kind of wizardry everybody thinks. I can't say there aren't actual US built engines in some of them, but how they get around import law to find a 1956 T Bird distributor, points and condenser would make for interesting reading.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Dang was hoping my 19 year old diesel would get to the 25 year old antique before this commie sheet hit the fan

My 99 F250 agrees.

 

[hndog609]

That's basically BS. Cuban shops take old US cars in and put in Russian made engines and drive trains. There's virtually nothing original except the redone bodies. The 50s Pontiac we rode around in had a Gaz diesel. The mechanics are very good at conversions - not quite the kind of wizardry everybody thinks. I can't say there aren't actual US built engines in some of them, but how they get around import law to find a 1956 T Bird distributor, points and condenser would make for interesting reading.

I didn't mean to imply what you describe doesn't happen, merely that the mechanics down there live a profoundly McGuyver lifestyle.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

What about if you're like me and drive a 16 year old car that gets 28mpg

 

[hUTch2002]

This is in India but I can see more than a few of the current Washington types getting behind some variation of it here.

Green Tax approved for private vehicles over 8 years old: What this means for car owners

This is where liberal plans fall apart. Who generally drives older cars? Not always the case but usually people who can’t afford newer ones. So what do we do with those people? Make them pay more. Liberals love to screech about oppression well this is what is actually looks like, all in the name of saving the climate! It’s just a matter of time until this happens though.

 

[RavinDave]

My 99 F250 agrees.

So does my 2010 F150.

Just passed 230,000 miles last week but still my favorite to drive over the other 3 vehicles we have which are a 2014 Tiguan, a 2016 Outback and a 2019 Ram 1500.

Why prefer the old truck? Well it’s got a longer bed for one thing - not that I need it that much. But it basically comes down to how comfortable the driver’s seat is. Yes I am getting old.

 

[RavinDave]

This is where liberal plans fall apart. Who generally drives older cars? Not always the case but usually people who can’t afford newer ones. So what do we do with those people? Make them pay more. Liberals love to screech about oppression well this is what is actually looks like, all in the name of saving the climate! It’s just a matter of time until this happens though.

Maybe I’m the exception but as I just posted, I have a fairly new Dodge truck and a fairly old F150 and I am still driving the F150 most every day because it’s more comfortable on my rear end and also has a smoother ride. The other day I was wondering how it would feel to drive a Bentley.

 

[hog88]

What about if you're like me and drive a 16 year old car that gets 28mpg

Your shot out of luck, congratulations. Vote better next time.

 

[hUTch2002]

Maybe i’m The exception but as I just posted, I have a fairly new Dodge truck and a fairly old F150 and I am still driving the F150 most every day because it’s more comfortable on my rear end and also has a smoother ride. The other day I was wondering how it would feel to drive a Bentley.

I’ve never had a brand new car and never will. I usually start about 2-3 years old and go until I feel they aren’t worth the cost to fix whatever is going on or maintain.