One and done

#26
#26
I say that they should either leave right out of high school, or have to stay for at least 3 years. By letting them come right out of high school, the one with superior talent (i.e. LeBron, Kobe, Kevin Garnett) will not have to suffer by playing in college when they really would compete in the NBA. Also, if someone is in need of money that bad, then he could come right out of high school. But if not, then he should stay with a program for at least 3 years.
 
#27
#27
Scottyhop said:
That maybe true, but putting an 18 year old kid in a locker room full of men with millions of dollars in his pocket is not good for his development as a player or a person.
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Yeah, putting them in a locker room with the Ramar Smiths of the world is the key to them gaining maturity.
 
#29
#29
Scottyhop said:
That maybe true, but putting an 18 year old kid in a locker room full of men with millions of dollars in his pocket is not good for his development as a player or a person.
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That's odd. Dirk Nowitzki, Peja Stojacovic, Ricky Rubio, and Brandon Jennings seem far better adjusted than Cam Tatum, Brian Williams, Tyler Smith, and Melvin Goins.
 
#30
#30
If they think they are ready then they should be able to go. It's on the NBA team that drafts them if they are a bust.
 
#31
#31
I'm fine with making a living right out of high school. Millions of people do it and turn out just fine. For some reason a basketball player can't? I just hate they have to declare and become ineligible to go back to college. This is where some kids fall through the cracks and end up giving up an education and possibly a future pro career. They think they will get drafted and then end up on the outside looking in.
 
#32
#32
FittyElevem said:
I'm fine with making a living right out of high school. Millions of people do it and turn out just fine. For some reason a basketball player can't? I just hate they have to declare and become ineligible to go back to college. This is where some kids fall through the cracks and end up giving up an education and possibly a future pro career. They think they will get drafted and then end up on the outside looking in.
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Nothing prevents them from going back and getting an education. They just can't do it on an athletic scholarship. It is their decision to attempt to go pro. I agree in a different way. I think a player in any sport should not lose their eligibility until they actually sign a contract or accept any sort of money. Up until that point they have not been paid for anything. I see nothing wrong with a kid testing the waters if they want to.
 
#34
#34
Should be the same all across college, just how it is in football
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#35
#35
Teeman said:
I heard Eddie Fogler suggest the other day that the NBA do like MLB. You either go right out of HS, or after your Jr. year if you opt for college. Works for baseball.
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not helping the integrity of the college game--though I fully realize major-college basketball doesn't have much integrity to begin with. It amazes me, frankly, that Çallipari goes after guys like Rose and Wall so enthusiastically (and illegally!)--yea, they get you closer to a national title, but it can't be satisfying coaching these guys for one year and watching them leave. That's why coach K at duke doesn't recruit the best ballers anymore. And you're spending a lot of energy on guys who are with your program for only several months.

More to the point: One year is a BAD compromise. Either let them go to the NBA straight out of high school--or, my preference, go with the baseball rule and make them stay in school for two/three years and get something of an education.
 
#36
#36
I say they should be able to go after high school but if they are going to make them go to college it should be for more than one year.
 
#37
#37
San Diego Vol said:
Should be the same all across college, just how it is in football
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why? The football argument is absurd. It's essentially a blanket statement that says anyone under 20 cannot be physically ready to play in the NFL.
 
#38
#38
Let them go from high school, if they attend college they must attend through their junior year.
 
#39
#39
I dont have an issue with one and done. It does not hurt the school, and it certainly does not hurt the player.

See: Texas University and Kevin Durant
 
#40
#40
suPEARLman said:
Depends on how you look at it. Many different ways;

1) kid growing up in tough times, trying to provide.
2) kid growing up with everything handed to him.
3) program struggling, looking for a savioir.
4) program at the top, looking to stay that way.

Take just these 4 ways and you can come up with 80 different arguements on the "one and dones".

At the end of the day, the NBA is a job. If anyone of us were majoring in anything,(let's say Accounting) and H&R Block offered us 6 figures to come on before we graduated.... I'm willing to bet 100% of the readers on here would take it.

These young men have to or will have to proivde soon for their families. This is their dream. Just like we have dreams.....


Just saying.
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I agree. Basketball is somethin these guys do, it isn't who they are. We can lose perspective if we neglect the fact that these are people with their own ambitions and desires.

That said, they should just let them either go out of high school, or stay a minimum number of years in college. That's because we're giving these guys a scholarship; we're investing in them. We have a right to set reasonable limitations. If I bailed on an academic scholarship to go work in the private industry, I'd essentially have wasted the school's money, when I could have stayed and wrote some papers to help the school's prestige.
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#41
#41
BigPapaVol said:
why? The football argument is absurd. It's essentially a blanket statement that says anyone under 20 cannot be physically ready to play in the NFL.
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Because the one and done, just promotes pimping; whatever college offers the most to that kid, then that is where he is going to go; also hurts colleges because they are not able to build solidarity with teams if players come and go within one year; I would rather them not go at all than to go 1 year; By forcing the kid to get an education and to grow into a man over the 3 years is a win win for all.
 
#42
#42
You either have to let them go out of high school or go at least 3 years in college. That way the NCAA can still pretend to care about academics when all they really care about is money.
 
#43
#43
Snakes on a Wii said:
That said, they should just let them either go out of high school, or stay a minimum number of years in college. That's because we're giving these guys a scholarship; we're investing in them. We have a right to set reasonable limitations. If I bailed on an academic scholarship to go work in the private industry, I'd essentially have wasted the school's money, when I could have stayed and wrote some papers to help the school's prestige.
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A school can elect not to renew a scholarship after a year. Why should the kid not be able to do the same?
 
#44
#44
What about if you were a college coach? Would you recruit one and done players ala Calipari at the expense of having to replace these players on a year to year basis. Of course you'll have a shot at winning it all because of your teams talent, but will there be enough talent on that team to overcome the lack of cohesiveness and experience to actually win it all?

Syracuse is the only team I can think of that has done it with there core players being freshmen - Melo and McNamara, although Melo was the only one and done on that team.
Ohio State was close to doing it with 3 one and done players, but lost to an experienced Florida team with 4 players who played together for 3 years.

Or would you coach quality players who you can have with you for atleast a couple years to coach and build. Players who can play gain experience playing together and ultimately become championship contenders.

Since Syracuse in 2003 none of the national champions had any one and doners on their team(outside of Marvin Williams of UNC in 2005) so obviously none of those teams were built around one and done players.

So would you take a chance to duplicate what Syracuse did in 2003 or go the route of non one and done players? I would personally recruit as many great basketball players that I could who WANT to play college basketball (no Brandon Jennings', although he's damn good) whether they leave after one year or not, well that wouldn't be up to me.
 
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