One and Dones

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This is soon to be a fussing thread so I'll speak and leave :)

IMO, the only people that are mad is the teams that don't get them a lot. It's usually the same group of teams that get these types of players like Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina, or Duke (the most storied programs) because these kids just use the schools as a stepping stone and reload instead of rebuild. But in all honesty, if you look back at NCAAT champions, 1 and done players haven't really fueled this. Before last night, 1 and done kids did Cal absolutely no good. I personally don't care because guys like Izzo do it more consistantly with 3 and 4 year players. Duke doesn't have a lot of 1 and done's and they seem to do just fine.

I would love to have the best players playing for Tennessee but I actually like to watch a player grow into a great player and not say goodbye after 1 year.
 
#3
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I just don't think it's good for the college game to have the best talent leave after 1 year. However, it's the player's right to forgo his sophomore year if he's good enough and if it's allowed by the NCAA.
 
#4
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I agree with both statements. I personnaly believe they shouldn't even have to go to college for the one year. I mean, look at baseball, soccer, tennis, golf and so on. I don't think it's fair to force the kid to college if not necessary.
 
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slh1089 said:
I agree with both statements. I personnaly believe they shouldn't even have to go to college for the one year. I mean, look at baseball, soccer, tennis, golf and so on. I don't think it's fair to force the kid to college if not necessary.
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They are mature enough to vote and fight in combat but not play NBA basketball. Man, that NBA must really be some serious stuff! (Meaning that I agree with your previous statement.)
 
#6
#6
I don't understand why people feel the need to prevent 18-year-old adults from coming to a voluntary agreement on a work contract with an employer. It's really weird.

As basketball becomes more global and Euro contracts become comparable, the NBA is going to have to amend its rules.
 
#7
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Nothing will perfectly solve the issue, but the baseball rule is better than the rule currently put in place for basketball.
 
#9
#9
It affects such a tiny percentage of all the NCAA basketball players I think this issue is entirely overblown.
 
#10
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I may be biased, but I don't mind it so much. ;)

Seriously, it's harder to get to know your guys when they are only on campus for one year. You can't argue with the results tho.
 
#11
#11
I doubt Calipari would have ever been successful enough at Memphis to get the UK job had the one-and-done rule not been put in. He didn't explode at Memphis until UofL and UC left C-USA, and he was able to get would-be NBA players.
 
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Brian McCat said:
I may be biased, but I don't mind it so much. ;)

Seriously, it's harder to get to know your guys when they are only on campus for one year. You can't argue with the results tho.
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Yeah, I agree. I love the team but for some reason this is my least favorite UK team Cal has had, the 2010 team will always be special for me, but I loved last year's team more too...liggins, knight, jorts...This team is talented beyond words and I couldn't be happier to have number 8 but it feels a little hollow (except for Darious).
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
Yeah, I agree. I love the team but for some reason this is my least favorite UK team Cal has had, the 2010 team will always be special for me, but I loved last year's team more too...liggins, knight, jorts...This team is talented beyond words and I couldn't be happier to have number 8 but it feels a little hollow (except for Darious).
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Really? I have felt different. I think it is mainly because of MKG and Miller. I honestly think they both enjoy being Players for Kentucky more so than most major players under Cal. However, I can see your point because there isn't the outspoken players like wall and boogie and they don't provide the media flash nearly as much.
 
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Here’s my thing, I love college basketball but the NBA is the ultimate dream for any blue-chip basketball player. In the past the NBA wouldn’t offer contracts to underclassman (who often wouldn’t even start in college). Since that has changed college is less a destination and more a prep course for the NBA which sucks. That said I still want UK to be the best so if that means getting the best talent (at the risk of having to reload every year) I would rather do that than have less talented teams that win titles every 20 years. The new way sucks b***s but it those are the rules I want UK to be the best…I add this to the growing list of stuff that was a lot better when I was a kid.
 
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slh1089 said:
Really? I have felt different. I think it is mainly because of MKG and Miller. I honestly think they both enjoy being Players for Kentucky more so than most major players under Cal. However, I can see your point because there isn't the outspoken players like wall and boogie and they don't provide the media flash nearly as much.
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Well for me the 2010 team was like a cold drink after walking across the desert – getting calls from the President, being number 1 it was stuff I wasn’t sure I’d ever see again at UK and so it was especially nice. For the record I hope UT finds their way back to this in football, I don’t have any negative feelings for (a majority) of UT fans. The 2011 team was the ‘scrappy underachiever’ who made a final four after knocking out the overall number 1 and UNC to get there. This team was as expected – which is great but after the horn sounded on Monday night I was relieved not ecstatic.
 
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dukes_of_maggard said:
Well for me the 2010 team was like a cold drink after walking across the desert – getting calls from the President, being number 1 it was stuff I wasn’t sure I’d ever see again at UK and so it was especially nice. For the record I hope UT finds their way back to this in football, I don’t have any negative feelings for (a majority) of UT fans. The 2011 team was the ‘scrappy underachiever’ who made a final four after knocking out the overall number 1 and UNC to get there. This team was as expected – which is great but after the horn sounded on Monday night I was relieved not ecstatic.
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Yeah I understand that completely. I am an anomaly and a UT and UK fan so I know what you mean with 2010. As a UT fan I am just hoping that Dooley isn't Gilespie because i don't see any football version of Cal just riding in. I guess the reason I like this UK team so much is because they have been so mature and professional with how they have gone about the whole season.
 
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slh1089 said:
Yeah I understand that completely. I am an anomaly and a UT and UK fan so I know what you mean with 2010. As a UT fan I am just hoping that Dooley isn't Gilespie because i don't see any football version of Cal just riding in. I guess the reason I like this UK team so much is because they have been so mature and professional with how they have gone about the whole season.
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I hope they are able to, I have lots of friends that are UT fans and this feeling is too good not to be shared.
 
#18
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I think if your talented enough to go to the NBA after HS, then you should be allowed. If you enroll in college, it should be a 2 year deal.
 
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slh1089 said:
Yeah I understand that completely. I am an anomaly and a UT and UK fan so I know what you mean with 2010. As a UT fan I am just hoping that Dooley isn't Gilespie because i don't see any football version of Cal just riding in. I guess the reason I like this UK team so much is because they have been so mature and professional with how they have gone about the whole season.
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Agree. I don't like Cal because he gets the best talent because I actually loved watching Davis in the post this season. I wanted UK to lose because I don't like the school but I dislike Cal because I think he's a jerk but not because he gets his one and done players. And how on Gods green earth can you be a UT and UK fan? I like basketball too but ugh.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Agree. I don't like Cal because he gets the best talent because I actually loved watching Davis in the post this season. I wanted UK to lose because I don't like the school but I dislike Cal because I think he's a jerk but not because he gets his one and done players. And how on Gods green earth can you be a UT and UK fan? I like basketball too but ugh.
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Haha well both my parents went to UT and that is how I was raised. Moved to Kentucky so UK became the most viable option for college. I will never pull for UK over UT but otherwise I am pulling for UK and follow their sports pretty closely (not as closely as UT). It's hard not to support the university that you attend.
 
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Okay. I can see that I guess lol. I thought you just..decided it one day. And I bet your parents give you crap when you rock the UK blue clothes huh
 
#22
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It would hurt Calipari quite a bit if players are ever once again allowed to turn pro out of high school. I'm sure he'd still pull great players, but the gap between his program and others would level out a lot more.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
I think if your talented enough to go to the NBA after HS, then you should be allowed. If you enroll in college, it should be a 2 year deal.
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The insurance premium for Anthony Davis to protect him against a career-ending injury was $45,000 per year, according to Cal. Many players' families struggle to finance this for one year, much less 2 or 3 years. It's a drop in the bucket compared to what they will make, but in the short term, it's a small mortgage- and most of these kids come from dire financial situations where the prospect of borrowing $45 just isn't possible.
 
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slh1089 said:
Why do people have issue with this? Sound off.
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Is it true that players do not need to pass classes before the season is over? So they dont even really have to try to stay eligible for their 1 season? I like the baseball rule also.
 
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bentenn said:
Is it true that players do not need to pass classes before the season is over? So they dont even really have to try to stay eligible for their 1 season? I like the baseball rule also.
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Your first semester counts I believe.
 
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