One great thing I've notice about Coach Heupel's offense..........

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Orange-U-Glad said:
So how do you defend against this offense?
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There’s no true way to defend it, you just need to be really really fast and strong at corner/safety. We won’t see that for the rest of our schedule EXCEPT Georgia. Georgia has a really really good defensive backfield. We’re not going to be able to throw bombs on them, have to be methodical in our offense that game. It’s gonna be tough.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
Rarely does our QB throw to a receiver being covered by more than one defender. Most passes are 1 on 1; that's if our receiver is being defended at all. Think about that; I got used to Gitmo constantly throwing into double, sometimes triple coverage.
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You’re correct but his last throw was to Bru who was covered by 2. He put it up high and Bru went up and got it. I would say Hendon , Stetson and Young keep their eyes downfield and make smarter decisions than about any QB in SEC. Hooker is about 4 inches taller than those 2. BY is way beyond his years in game decisions, Hooker24 & Stetson 25 been around long enough to be quasi coaches on the field.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Takes pretty good arm strength to throw all game long to guys who are so far away. You can eliminate probably 75% of all teams just by that.

And then it runs contrary to how most of these coaches learned the game of football. The average head coach is probably around 45-50 years old....the youngest ones are in their late 20s or early 30s, and the oldest are in their late 60s or early 70s.

That means the average head coach was a player about 25-30 years ago. Spreading the field and playing "basketball on grass" existed back then, I mean Josh Heupel is a product of its early-ish application at Oklahoma. But most programs in America were still in the I formation back then, with 21 or 12 personnel, if not 22. Just one receiver on each side of the formation wasn't unusual back then, the way it seems to be today.

So you can knock out three-fourths of the one-fourth that remain because of their background.

So now we're down to one-fourth of one-fourth of all the teams who MIGHT have skilled enough QBs and coaches with an open mind to the concept. 130 teams times 0.25 times 0.25 = 8 teams.

And that's probably about how many are routinely running some version of the air raid / run & shoot / spread these days.

Is there a down side to this style of play? Only to the extent that every choice you make, you leave on the table those choices you didn't pick.

Is this the future of college football? I think so. I think the rules being tweaked so often over the past 50 years to favor the offense have led us to this place. I think the future is a world that looks like what Josh Heupel's doing, only everywhere (or mostly everywhere, there's always an Army and Navy out there clinging to niche systems).
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Great breakdown, thanks. Think of the Tn qbs that could run this system besides Hooker. Shuler definitely, if he could read the defenses. Martin had the arm and legs but same thing. Peyton had the smarts but not the legs, as did Casey Clausen and Ainge. I think Hooker is the real key here. I suppose Nico would not have been signed if he could not. Maybe another reason Heupel seemed to have no interest in Arch?
 
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Kristy* said:
And on the flip side, not taking away from Hooker, but some of him being able to read the defenses is coaching. A good coach will get the best out of their players.
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Absolutely 👍

It’s been a great match!
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
So how do you defend against this offense?
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I am figuring attempts probably look something like this:
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Orange-U-Glad said:
So how do you defend against this offense?
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Hit the quarterback. Early and often. That's why our offensive line is the most important group on this team. If the qb is protected, then we are hard to stop. See Georgia for the answer in a few weeks. If all of those athletes on defense can't zip up Heupel's offense, then nobody can.
 
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It’s the scheme, it’s a numbers game and the read is to identify the coverage and mismatch. He only makes one or two reads. The brilliance is in its simplicity.

Dropping 45 yard dimes in stride is all Hooker, though. Not to mention receivers making plays.
 
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JRich said:
It’s the scheme, it’s a numbers game and the read is to identify the coverage and mismatch. He only makes one or two reads. The brilliance is in its simplicity.

Dropping 45 yard dimes in stride is all Hooker, though. Not to mention receivers making plays.
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Agree, but it is a complex mix of QB reads as well as route ID by the WR corps. So much happens in the first 3 steps off the line that must gel between the QB and the WRs. The use of "Eye Candy" is also in the recipe for success. Here is a detailed explanation.

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I wonder how much HH would attribute his improvement to CJH versus other factors and coaches in the offseason
 
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beamerman said:
Great breakdown, thanks. Think of the Tn qbs that could run this system besides Hooker. Shuler definitely, if he could read the defenses. Martin had the arm and legs but same thing. Peyton had the smarts but not the legs, as did Casey Clausen and Ainge. I think Hooker is the real key here. I suppose Nico would not have been signed if he could not. Maybe another reason Heupel seemed to have no interest in Arch?
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Dude, Shuler would have been great if. I think he could have been productive, but not sure if he could have excelled like Hendon has.

What about Dobbs ? He certainly could have read the defenses. I'm not too certain about his accuracy.
 
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All my uga grad neighbor has to say Is we’d better pay him before he’s gone basically
 
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Hooker doesn't stare down his receiver's, he goes through his progressions and often looks the safety off. Game is extremely slow to him, credit coaching, experience, knowledge of the offense, lots of prep/study and of course the ice water running through his veins. Composure is genetics and he got two helpings.
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
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Only shot is playing man on the receivers with hopes that your man is better than his man. Hard to do.
Secondly, interrupt the QB. I was worried about this through the FL (until I watched it first hand) game but this OL is bad@$$
 
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Guarantano always threw to the 1 receiver on the play, I feel like. Stared at them from snap to interception.
 
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According to 247 Tennessee has the 19th most talented team. Based on the players Tennessee has and their rating coming out of high school.

#1 Bama
#2 Georgia
#3 OSU
#4 A&M
#5 Clemson

Can we all just imagine when Heupel keeps this Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird screaming? Seriously when he gets a few years of top recruits in Tennessee and their “talent level” is up to say top 7 or better………wow…….look out.

Not to mention we can see development…….just wait until Heupel and staff are developing more and better talent.

Not trying to knock on Tennessee at all. Just saying Tennessee is way overachieving given “talent level.” They could conceivably way overachieve with even more talent.
 
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VolDave53 said:
Agree, but it is a complex mix of QB reads as well as route ID by the WR corps. So much happens in the first 3 steps off the line that must gel between the QB and the WRs. The use of "Eye Candy" is also in the recipe for success. Here is a detailed explanation.

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Yeah, it seems to run this offense you have to have:

1. A quarterback who can correctly and quickly diagnose the defense, and can make very accurate throws all over the field.

It’s helpful if they have mobility as that adds more to the option dimension of things but also so they can get out of trouble themselves if they are pressured without taking too many hits.

2. Wide receivers who can similarly look at the situation and find the correct route based on what the coverage look.

3. An offensive line that is clicking and effective in protection.

I know there are rules for how many organized practices teams have but can players themselves work on some things together in their own time? It seems time spent between the QB and WRs looking at coverages on film and such might be useful for getting them thinking the same.
 
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Tman44 said:
Heupel's concepts, particularly stacking receivers, usually allows for at least one receiver to get a free release. This system produces open receivers on a regular basis. Throw in some creative wrinkles in the concepts, as well as our receiver's blazing speed, and that is why even the best coaches (Saban) cannot stop our offense. It is truly a thing of beauty.
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It’s a chess match, using stacks, short and wide side of the field, getting matchups on safeties and linebackers, and I love it!
 
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