One of the best Pearl Articles I've ever read : Why Pearl still matters to TN

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hat - you are right. There was bball at Tennessee before Bruce Pearl. It is obvious that you have been going to games for a very long time and it upsets you that some Vol fans think that Tennessee hoops started in 2005.

There was also steak before A1 and Worcestershire sauce. That doesn't mean it was very good steak.

There was beer before refrigerators and lots of people enjoyed the warm beer... but that doesn't mean cold beer isn't a whole hell of a lot better.

Tennessee played basketball long before Bruce Pearl... but Tennessee basketball is relevant because of Bruce Pearl. And it has tasted pretty d*mn good the last few years...better than ever before.
 
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Coastypop said:
you missed some great BB if like letting the air out and scores like 32-25
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Who did UT play in that game ??..I don't remember it ??..I remember some games with UK that were in the 40's and I remember a game with some Ohio team that UT won 40 something to 30 something..

The DeVoe years had some real good moments...Winning the SEC Tournament the first year they brought it back...Beating UK for the third time that year made it even sweeter..Dale Ellis, Howard Wood, Gary Carter, Michael Brooks,Tony White,Dyron Nix,Fred Jenkins,Rob Jones all fun players to watch during the DeVoe years..All the packed houses at Stokely..The early years of DeVoe's tenure were successful..The latter years weren't so great even though he did get the Vols into the NCAA tourney his last season...
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
hat - you are right. There was bball at Tennessee before Bruce Pearl. It is obvious that you have been going to games for a very long time and it upsets you that some Vol fans think that Tennessee hoops started in 2005.

There was also steak before A1 and Worcestershire sauce. That doesn't mean it was very good steak.

There was beer before refrigerators and lots of people enjoyed the warm beer... but that doesn't mean cold beer isn't a whole hell of a lot better.

Tennessee played basketball long before Bruce Pearl... but Tennessee basketball is relevant because of Bruce Pearl. And it has tasted pretty d*mn good the last few years...better than ever before.
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If you're eating steak that needs A1 or Worcestershire, you're eating crappy steak.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Which explains why the flagship radio station has always given the men's team priority when the two schedules conflict and not a single renovation of note was done to TBA until the men started winning big. Remind me how Pat got a practice facility built when she was winning all those national titles. Women's basketball is, was, and always will be something for lesbians, old people, and people too damn cheap to pay full price for a men's ticket to do. Period. It's a niche sport that most Tennessee fans barely notice if the men's team is doing well.
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I agree with that mens bball is more popular but the author is talking about national revelance. Untiol Pearl got here the womens team was more revelant.
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OaklandTnVol said:
I agree with that mens bball is more popular but the author is talking about national revelance. Untiol Pearl got here the womens team was more revelant.
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Not really. Check the number of regular season men's games on national television to the number Summit's teams had in that period. The only "national relevance" women's basketball has is among the subset of the sports media that apparently feels duty bound to push the sport. The women's final was opposite Wrestlemania a few years ago. More people paid 50 bucks to watch scripted sports entertainment than watched the signature event of the women's game. That should tell everyone how "relevant" women's basketball is nationally.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Not really. Check the number of regular season men's games on national television to the number Summit's teams had in that period. The only "national relevance" women's basketball has is among the subset of the sports media that apparently feels duty bound to push the sport. The women's final was opposite Wrestlemania a few years ago. More people paid 50 bucks to watch scripted sports entertainment than watched the signature event of the women's game. That should tell everyone how "relevant" women's basketball is nationally.
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If there were more flagrant folding chair fouls I feel like more people would tune in.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Not really. Check the number of regular season men's games on national television to the number Summit's teams had in that period. The only "national relevance" women's basketball has is among the subset of the sports media that apparently feels duty bound to push the sport. The women's final was opposite Wrestlemania a few years ago. More people paid 50 bucks to watch scripted sports entertainment than watched the signature event of the women's game. That should tell everyone how "relevant" women's basketball is nationally.
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Go ahead and post those numbers for us stat king.
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hatvol96 said:
Not really. Check the number of regular season men's games on national television to the number Summit's teams had in that period. The only "national relevance" women's basketball has is among the subset of the sports media that apparently feels duty bound to push the sport. The women's final was opposite Wrestlemania a few years ago. More people paid 50 bucks to watch scripted sports entertainment than watched the signature event of the women's game. That should tell everyone how "relevant" women's basketball is nationally.
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Where would one find that stat? I live in Kentucky and in the 90's I got to watch Tennessee on television very few times. If I did it was on Jefferson Pilot. The Lady Vols were on about a dozen times a year. More than that when you include the tourney.

And, yes, playing deep into March does make you relevant. And yes, at that time of year --maybe just for that weekend between men's games, America knows what is going on in women's hoops. More so than college baseball or the NHL I would say.
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Where would one find that stat? I live in Kentucky and in the 90's I got to watch Tennessee on television very few times. If I did it was on Jefferson Pilot. The Lady Vols were on about a dozen times a year. More than that when you include the tourney.

And, yes, playing deep into March does make you relevant. And yes, at that time of year --maybe just for that weekend between men's games, America knows what is going on in women's hoops. More so than college baseball or the NHL I would say.
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People may know, but no one cares at all.
 
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WesternKyVol said:
More so than college baseball or the NHL I would say.
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Yeah, that's why the NHL can command 250 bucks a pop for the premium seasts at their games and essentially every game they play is available on TV. Where do I sign up to get the Full Court package for women's college basketball?
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Where would one find that stat? I live in Kentucky and in the 90's I got to watch Tennessee on television very few times. If I did it was on Jefferson Pilot. The Lady Vols were on about a dozen times a year. More than that when you include the tourney.

And, yes, playing deep into March does make you relevant. And yes, at that time of year --maybe just for that weekend between men's games, America knows what is going on in women's hoops. More so than college baseball or the NHL I would say.
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Are you saying the Lady vols were playing 12 regular season games a year on national TV in the '90s?
 
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Isn't Dana O'Neill the same writer that quite a few of you were griping about a few weeks back?
 
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emainvol said:
Isn't Dana O'Neill the same writer that quite a few of you were griping about a few weeks back?
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You mean when she said Pearl should be out of a job? I guess she suddenly got much smarter when she wrote something the Pearlophiles liked.
 
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albedo33 said:
When I started following UT BB, the coach was named Emmitt Lowery - so I've seen them come and go. CPB has only been here 5+ years. But by any measure, he stands alone. Above Mears and well above DeVoe in accomplishments: winning %, program "firsts," wins over Top 10 teams, just to name a few.

I admire how CBP can do it all: recruit great players, coach 'em up, then just 'will' the team to victory, as we saw yesterday at #3 Pitt. The Panthers were tough, physical thugs. We played them at their house. Every call by the refs went against us. All 3 of our big men fouled out. Yet we still won rather handily. When has a UT BB team been able to do that?

There's been talk here that the NCAA might impose on UT a 2-yr ban on post-season play. If that happens, Mike Hamilton should shake CBP's hand and offer him a vote of confidence. He may be a cheating SOB, but he's our cheating SOB. Also the best coach we ever had.
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Great post! I hope that is not true about a possible 2 year post-season ban though, although in the back of my head I know that it is a strong possiblity.
 
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If firing Pearl avoided a two year postseason ban, we should eject him immediately. No man is bigger than the program.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Not really. Check the number of regular season men's games on national television to the number Summit's teams had in that period. The only "national relevance" women's basketball has is among the subset of the sports media that apparently feels duty bound to push the sport. The women's final was opposite Wrestlemania a few years ago. More people paid 50 bucks to watch scripted sports entertainment than watched the signature event of the women's game. That should tell everyone how "relevant" women's basketball is nationally.
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:eek:lol::lolabove::eek:lol:
 
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hatvol96 said:
Are you saying the Lady vols were playing 12 regular season games a year on national TV in the '90s?
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Maybe not 12 but a lot more than the men. They were on one of the ESPNs every time they played UConn, Stanford, North Carolina, Virginia, Texas Tech, Texas, Louisiana Tech, Old Dominion, Vanderbilt, or Georgia. They played most of these teams annually.

I don't really care, honestly. The women's game is boring though not unwatchable, much like many Olympic sports, where what we really care about is the final result. That being said, Wade Houston, Kevin O'Neill, Buzz Peterson, and even Jerry Green were never as well known as Pat Head Summitt.
 
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OaklandTnVol said:
I could care less. Id just like you to support your comment and you didn't. Thanks.
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Not my fault you're lazy. Most of the members of this forum have already seen that debate and the numbers. I'm not inclined to rehash it to make you feel better. You're welcome.
 
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Incipient said:
And if you need your beer frosty, chances are you're drinking crappy beer as well.
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how many warm beers have you had today while watching NFL games? how many warm ones when your out eating wings with your buds? how many warm ones at anytime in life?

gtfo.
 
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