Mick
Mr. Orange
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As a country, we've lost a lot of wisdom over the last couple hundred years.
Wisdom is acquired; by definition younger people don't have it - that takes time and life experience. What youth does have is naiveté, exuberance, and an overabundance of confidence that they really do know it all.
We made a big error in judgment by listening to the "progressive" crowd and giving people younger and younger the voice they didn't deserve and hadn't earned with the "if you're old enough for fighting ..." refrain. Old enough for cannon fodder is not the same as old enough and experienced enough to lead - and not turn assets into cannon fodder before they, too, gained some wisdom.
"To everything
There is a season
And a time to every purpose"
And the time to have a voice and make change comes after learning how things actually work rather than juvenile observations from the periphery. But the liberal/progressive crowd played the youth game and turned a very proud and successful nation hard left despite a preponderance of evidence that their socialism has never worked in the long run.
Never mind if there is simply a confidential informant lawfully reporting on illegal Russian collusion or obstruction. Let's call him a "planted" "spy" and let's say it was for partisan political purposes.
Problem is, Trump has lied so many thousands of times that it's just not possible to accept his characterization.
Let the record reflect that LG is cool with the police state tactics so long as someone has made a serious allegation.
I bet if you think back hard enough, you'll remember a time when you would have never been ok with such a thing. It was probably prior to your first loyalty becoming The Party.
Let the record reflect that DC is an idiot. OMG LG posted. Lets claim he is in favor of police state tactics and get bunches of likes because other idiot will back you.
Do you have any idea what DC is alleging?
I seriously doubt it.
Police state tactics: the FBI was investigating Donald Trump and his campaign in search of crimes. There was no probable cause. There was no crime that started the investigation. Trump is right - this is a witch hunt with no crime or evidence of a crime to justify the investigation or spying warrant.
Do you understand the implications?
They tried to setup Trump for nonexistent crimes. They were spying on Americans with warrants designed to be used on foreign spies & terrorists.
Unbelievable how you guys continue to look the other way simply because you dislike Trump.
Another good post my man. This is what they do not understand. What happens when a spy is placed in the Democrats Campaign in 2020? Will that be OK too if they suspect the candidate has a connection to a foreign government. If that is the precedent they want to set, then so be it. Everything will continue to erode as our leaders ignore the Constitution and our laws.
Also, since it has been proven that the Hillary camp was associating with the Russians and Slick Willie got paid big bucks by the Russians for speeches, should there also have been a spy embedded in her campaign and correlating documents as well? Some may say, how do you know this was not done? I say, show me the documents.
It's all going to come out.
People better start preparing themselves mentally.
It blew my mind when I finally understood.
From what is public knowledge there seems to be more evidence for than against. tRump has lied and continues to lie to the people who voted for him. Some say this moment in our history is a test of our democracy, constant attacks on law enforcement, the free press, and intel agencies. Hopefully America will be okay regardless of the findings, the winner will be democracy. Many have died and are still placing themselves in harms way to protect it.
Same here. The Satanic Pedofile stuff is the worst. All the Epstein Island and Lolita Express and the Allison Mack stuff is very disturbing. Not to mention all their ties to this Marina Abramović.
All the Child Pedo art work in Tony Podesta's house was very sick. These people are just plain evil.
Just the artwork in a home will tell you that is one sick MF. You got any of those pics that were shown awhile back?
Beyond decadent, just evil. What kinda sick fff's we got in power? Who the eff hangs **** like that on their wall? Ohh...impressionist art can be interpreted in the eyes of the viewer BS.
That is the thing, the bastion of do whatever makes you happy, damn the consequences of a creator they detest.
Yep it's bad stuff. If you Google Tony Podesta art collection you will see some of it. It's all drawings and not of real people so that it is legal.
tony podesta artwork - Google Search
Most of this is spin by the Press. I'm sure Trump has lied just like the Clinton's and Obama's and Bush's. This was a total setup by the Deep State Elites that do not want to be exposed for what they are. Trump is a threat to their evil regime and they will do and say anything to cover it up.
I get it. You don't like politicians who lie all the time and, worse, use government to line their own pockets.
You ever lie personally or in court? Of course so Mr Integrity, we bow at your righteousness.
And please show me where Trump "illegally" lined his pockets from gov funding. Everyone is allowed what is allowed.
And BTW, calling someone else a "liar" is tossing stones at glass houses. That is a dirty term and applicable to everyone.
BREAKING: IG Horowitz has found reasonable grounds for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJs handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution
Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) May 17, 2018
The report is expected to focus solely on the Clinton investigation and not on the 2016 Russia election meddling investigation, according to sources.
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The Clinton report is expected to be followed by a third report on the IGs investigation into the FBI and DOJs handling of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) application on Carter Page, a former volunteer for the Trump campaign. The IG announced this investigation in March.
Piece by a former FBI agent. Notes that at the time the informant was used this was a counterintelligence investigation,not a criminal probe. That is, the FBI was not trying to "get" Trump, but to determine whether the Russians had planted agents in his campaign. If the FBI had wanted to get Trump, they could have easily leaked that there was an investigation afoot to determine if Russian agents had infiltrated Trump's campaign. Look at the effect Comey's statement that the FBI had reopened the Hillary email had. That probably swing the election. A leak that the FBI was actively investigating possible infiltration of the Trump team by Russians would have torpedoed Trump's campaign.
If the FBI used an informant, it wasn't to go after Trump. It was to protect him. - Chicago Tribune
Piece by a former FBI agent. Notes that at the time the informant was used this was a counterintelligence investigation,not a criminal probe. That is, the FBI was not trying to "get" Trump, but to determine whether the Russians had planted agents in his campaign. If the FBI had wanted to get Trump, they could have easily leaked that there was an investigation afoot to determine if Russian agents had infiltrated Trump's campaign. Look at the effect Comey's statement that the FBI had reopened the Hillary email had. That probably swing the election. A leak that the FBI was actively investigating possible infiltration of the Trump team by Russians would have torpedoed Trump's campaign.
If the FBI used an informant, it wasn't to go after Trump. It was to protect him. - Chicago Tribune
Piece by a former FBI agent. Notes that at the time the informant was used this was a counterintelligence investigation,not a criminal probe. That is, the FBI was not trying to "get" Trump, but to determine whether the Russians had planted agents in his campaign. If the FBI had wanted to get Trump, they could have easily leaked that there was an investigation afoot to determine if Russian agents had infiltrated Trump's campaign. Look at the effect Comey's statement that the FBI had reopened the Hillary email had. That probably swing the election. A leak that the FBI was actively investigating possible infiltration of the Trump team by Russians would have torpedoed Trump's campaign.
If the FBI used an informant, it wasn't to go after Trump. It was to protect him. - Chicago Tribune
And never forget those nine terrifying words, "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
Piece by a former FBI agent. Notes that at the time the informant was used this was a counterintelligence investigation,not a criminal probe. That is, the FBI was not trying to "get" Trump, but to determine whether the Russians had planted agents in his campaign. If the FBI had wanted to get Trump, they could have easily leaked that there was an investigation afoot to determine if Russian agents had infiltrated Trump's campaign. Look at the effect Comey's statement that the FBI had reopened the Hillary email had. That probably swing the election. A leak that the FBI was actively investigating possible infiltration of the Trump team by Russians would have torpedoed Trump's campaign.
If the FBI used an informant, it wasn't to go after Trump. It was to protect him. - Chicago Tribune
Just put the FoxNews/Hannity/Gateway Pundit reefer down for a second and think this through. Why would the FBI, if it was in cahoots with Obama and Clinton and wanted to tilt the election to Hillary, publicly announce days before the election that she was back under investigation and keep completely under wraps that there was an ongoing investigation of the Trump campaign for Russian interference. The narrative makes zero sense and you know it. The FBI wanted Hillary to lose the election so that it could then manufacture dirt on Trump in order to impeach him? It's simply a ludicrous theory that can't make sense of the most basic facts.