Oregon suspends Blount for season

#76
#76
So what do you feel is appropriate for punching someone in the face and then trying to go after the crowd?

I wonder what kind of punishment would happen if someone did this at an intramural game?

It's not like Blount punched Byron Hout without first being shoved/verbally abused. If you watch the video at full-speed, Blount was walking off the field with his head down, when Hout purposefully ran up to him, shoved him in the chest/shoulder, said what he said, and then got punched almost immediately. It's not really known what Hout said, but word is it was pretty awful, like really low.

I'm not saying Blount's actions were right. He deserved to be punished for the dubious incident, but a season-ending punishment isn't reasonable when the lesson would be better taught by giving incentives to make right what Blount did wrong.

If this were intramural, which I didn't participate in during college, I would say both players should have been punished similarly.
 
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#77
#77
Nobody's defending Blount. The length of the suspension was just egregiously out of line with what you typically see in college football, where guys get arrested for assault and miss two games. He deserved a long suspension -- about what he'll end up getting, probably. Half the season.

What was particularly stupid about the suspension is that it was so nakedly an attempt by an embarrassed coach to shift the focus onto Blount and away from the fact that his team completely wet the bed in his coaching debut. They should have suspended Blount indefinitely, let everybody cool down, and then decided how long he should be out. But no, Chip Kelly couldn't get in front of the camera fast enough or wave his finger hard enough to get people talking about something other than the terrible job he did.

Yep. That is EXACTLY in-line with his character as a coach. EXACTLY!
 
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#78
#78
It's not like Blount punched Byron Hout without first being shoved/verbally abused. If you watch the video at full-speed, Blount was walking off the field with his head down, when Hout purposefully ran up to him, shoved him in the chest/shoulder, said what he said, and then got punched almost immediately. It's not really known what Hout said, but word is it was pretty awful, like really low.

I'm not saying Blount's actions were right. He deserved to be punished for the dubious incident, but a season-ending punishment isn't reasonable when the lesson would be better taught by giving incentives to make right what Blount did wrong.

If this were intramural, which I didn't participate in during college, I would say both players should have been punished similarly.

One was mouthing, something that happens in every game, the other threw a punch and had to be restrained from going after the crowd. While I think the Boise guy deserved what he got, the two actions were not equal. How could you possibly think they deserved similar disciplinary action?

I do think the Boise guy should have been disciplined to some extent though.
 
#79
#79
One was mouthing, something that happens in every game, the other threw a punch and had to be restrained from going after the crowd. While I think the Boise guy deserved what he got, the two actions were not equal. How could you possibly think they deserved similar disciplinary action?

I do think the Boise guy should have been disciplined to some extent though.

I'd say 1-3 games for Hout, and 3-6 games for Blount. But no games for Hout and all games for Blount..?
 
#80
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I'm just saying it's really no different anywhere. You get a bunch of competitive 18-22yo guys on a field and things happen. And when you grab a guy and start talking trash you better be ready for the consequences. Is it right? Probably not but it happens everywhere. Gerald Williams punched a UGA player last year and only got a 15yd penalty



I just used that example since it's the top level of intramural football.

I think a lot of the Blount situation had to do with trying to charge in the stands too. That's a bad move. Also it was after the game with helmets off.

When I was at UT it wasn't the top but stuff changes.
 
#81
#81
personally if i was a duck fan i'd want him off the team completely. even if the cameras didn't catch it.
:rolleyes:

it wasn't caught with tv cameras though. Go watch the fraternity division and see how many punches are flying. Heck, the pledge games are even worse. They even called the game a couple of times
I thought punching other people in the pledge games was the point...

At least the timing with this is in line with the suspension he should have received in the first place... Oh well.

Oregon slowly takes the Pac-10's "Thug U" title away from ASU.

OSU, UDub and Cal fans everywhere make snarky comments. The world keeps turning.
 
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#82
One was mouthing, something that happens in every game, the other threw a punch and had to be restrained from going after the crowd. While I think the Boise guy deserved what he got, the two actions were not equal. How could you possibly think they deserved similar disciplinary action?

I do think the Boise guy should have been disciplined to some extent though.

I agree. Trash talking is part of the game, but this was after the game and "not in the heat of battle."

I think it makes the punch worse that is was after the game.

I mean geez, don't we teach little kids to not punch people that make fun of them?
 
#83
#83
I think a lot of the Blount situation had to do with trying to charge in the stands too. That's a bad move. Also it was after the game with helmets off.

When I was at UT it wasn't the top but stuff changes.

I agree with this. He totally lost control and if security had not been on top of their game someone in the stands would have been injured. This kid is/was out of control and nothing indicates that anything has changed.
 
#84
#84
thug u strikes again. pathetic.

That's funny coming from Glad-I'm-Not U. :lolabove:

42-3

The coach sent the message to his team, the university and all who watch college football that behavior like this won't be tolerated. Now he appears to be sending the opposite message, at least that is how it appears to anyone not involved or vested in the Oregon program.

It's not the opposite message. Blount is still being suspended for a large part of the season. Something that is generally seen as undesirable by players.

I don't disagree. The problem I have isn't so much his reaction and punch to the Boise player so much as it was his total lack of control afterward. Had someone not been there to hold him back he looked like he was going to go after spectators, an act that would have very likely landed him in court and ended his career.

And he is being suspended for that.

The sad thing about that part of the incident, imo, is how much of a double-standard we have developed between conduct expectations between fans and players.

If you were walking down the street and witnessed a large group of people screaming, jeering and insulting a single guy trying to walk past, would you seriously take the side of the people in the crowd if the lone dude socked one of them?

Maybe I'm old school. But, in my book, what those fans were doing is called asking for it. You don't get to denigrate people to their faces without consequence simply because you paid for a ticket.

Football is all about penalizing the retaliator. I personally think the season-long suspension was too harsh, but they should've called his suspension an indefinite one while they reviewed the issue.

Agreed.

I think it sets a bad precedent in your university to suspend him for the season and then say "well, not so fast, maybe we overreacted."

I don't know about that. Put yourself in Kelly's shoes. If you realized after the fact that it was too harsh and it was still within your power to correct it, wouldn't you be weaker to not try and make things right?

I think that throwing a kid under the bus to try and make sure the university doesn't look good sets a bad precedence.

I think the "indefinite suspension" should always be the initial call until things can be reviewed rationally and calmly.

Agreed. They botched it. At least they're big enough to fix it before it's too late.

i'm sure that's what kelly would have wanted and obviously he had no intention of suspending him for the entire season.

It's not obvious. You are speculating.

personally if i was a duck fan i'd want him off the team completely. even if the cameras didn't catch it.

I don't believe that at all.

I feel like I walked into the hood. Blount can tell someone he is going to whoop their.... and after he gets beat down on the field, an opposing player laughs about it and Blount sucker punches him. It didn't stop there, oh no. Everyone acts like this season long suspension is just from a cheap sucker punch. He fought with teammates, coaches, fans, cops.....

Blount said "we owe them an ass woopin" while watching film of the late hits from the previous season. He apologized before the game.

The opposing player smacked him on the shoulder as he was trying to walk off the field and started taunting him. Again, call me old school. That's called asking for it. If you do that and don't see the punch coming, that's your bad. Not a sucker punch.

What part of that don't you understand? Artest fought with fans and was suspended for the season. But Blount is allowed to not only fight with fans but his own coaches and COPS! If cops were trying to subdue me and I shoved them, I am going to jail. True story. This kid is lucky Boise State's player didn't press charges.

Artest was not suspended for a full season.

Blount did not fight with cops or coaches.

Boise State player couldn't press charges because he committed battery and initiated the fight.

I have no sympathy for Blount. He has been in trouble before so this isn't a second chance. This is his third or fourth chance. Some of you people defending him are crazy.

I have no sympathy for your position on Blount and am looking forward to seeing him on the field again this year.

So what do you feel is appropriate for punching someone in the face and then trying to go after the crowd?

Six games.
 

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